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Posted 3/4/2013 7:50 PM (GMT 0)
Hello,

So...this doc I want to see has a dietary list of foods to eat/avoid. I have not seen him yet,but I emailed him inquiring. I work part time..because of this disease. Even doing what im doing now is breaking me $$.

I told him I really do all I can working part -time. It is pretty much 95-98% organic/non gmo and I strictly avoid gluten/soy/dairy (except goat products). I avoid all fried foods,processed/chemical snacks. If I do snacks they are organic and sprouted usually. I juice vegetables (non sweet). The main fruit I eat is organic granny smith apples. Gradually moving towards only granny smith and tart grapefruit. Cook organic sprouted lentils. Do brazil nuts,sprouted almonds,almond milk. I consume a gluten free bread. Eat lots of celery and romaine lettuce. Meats are beef that is grass fed/anti hormone,chicken that is clean,etc. It is not perfect,but I work part-time..its really all I can do to make sure I eat enough. I really just focus highly on non-gmo,organic,no artificial foods,no added sugar products,and no dairy/gluten/soy.

Just worried.... :( maybe I will need extra herbs to combat inflammation then.
Posted 3/4/2013 8:59 PM (GMT 0)
It sounds pretty great!
What more could you even do??
Yeah, it's too bad that healthy food is so expensive! I keep costs down by going to the least expensive grocery store or farmer's markets for my produce.. Sprout nuts on my own... Buy everything I can in bulk (cheaper that way). One plus is that packaged food tends to be expensive, so not eating it saves a little. I'm not juicing right now, just cause it takes so much produce... But I know it's so good for you so maybe at some point.. For now it's smoothies cause it takes fewer vegetables.
Posted 3/4/2013 9:02 PM (GMT 0)
Also... Over the past couple years I've been given so many different lists of which foods to eat and avoid... Many contradicting each other... I've changed my diet to match different lists any number of times... Ultimately I think I ended up eating all wrong for myself... I think it's okay to figure out what diet works for you... And that includes budgetary concerns (you don't want money stress on the menu :) You know better than the list! I felt empowered when I made my own list... literally... of the foods I eat. There's like 50 things on it.
Posted 3/4/2013 9:13 PM (GMT 0)
The dietary stuff can be a pain. I've drastically changed my diet. The latest LLMD I've seen said simply: eat what makes you feel good, don't eat what doesn't make you feel good. I was like, 'Oh K...' At first I was annoyed feeling cheated almost like I wanted her to give me the laundry list of do's and dont's. But the more I thought about it I realized: I've been at this for 9 mos. I know what I'm supposed to be eating and avoiding at this point. I don't need the doctor to berate me into compliance.
Your diet is amazing!! I think that is really, really good. I stick to a low sugar, no caffeine, no alcohol, no gluten/dairy/soy diet MOST of the time. I drink my crummy green smoothies, take my supplements, etc. I'm doing what I can personally handle. I think everyone should just do the best they can! Don't be hard on yourself! You're going thru enough right now.
Posted 3/4/2013 11:10 PM (GMT 0)
I think the worse thing I eat....is a salad dressing. lol. it has canola oil in it,maple syrup,8g sugar,ketchup,distilled vinegar,spices,etc. no high fructose corn syrup,gluten or dairy though. Its sweet & sour. I LOVE french type dressings so its closest i could find without allergens.

thanks guys!
Posted 3/5/2013 12:04 AM (GMT 0)
I love sweet and sour too! On my salads I put... lemon juice, flax oil, salt (sometimes), stevia (if I want it sweet), and dulse flakes (salty without the salt). It sounds lame and simple I know, but it sort of rocks my world.
Posted 3/5/2013 4:32 PM (GMT 0)
nice! Though,I will have to be honest...I do egg dairy..its in my gluten free bread..and safflower mayo,lol
Posted 3/5/2013 9:06 PM (GMT 0)
Shabbychic

I think your dr is right about eating what you feel is right.

I have this strange advantage of feeling what I can or can not eat. My dietician says that she knows several people amongst her patients that have this kind of 'intuition'.

I have lots and lots of food allergies and intolerances, and (don't laugh please), sometimes just looking at some foods gives me instant severe headaches. There's the range that always gives me headaches or acid reflux just looking or thinking about it, then there's the range of foods that I can only eat when my body isn't to much stressed out (like when I'm on vacation).

She said that it's in fact a really normal reaction that lots of people lost. And that when having children who really persist in not eating certain things are often right. I had a life long aversion against certain foods and after testing, it was proven that I was allergic...

sorry kds, for kind of intervening into your thread...

Posted 3/6/2013 5:23 AM (GMT 0)
Its alright,thats cool. tonight i had tgi fridays with friends. not one salad is served without cheese,grr. So its times like those..every now and then my diet gets shot.
Posted 3/7/2013 2:03 AM (GMT 0)
kds86,

I think that you are doing a great job with your diet.

What kind of diet does this doctor propose? I see sometimes that the doc's want their patients to avoid certain foods to "starve" the microbes. I disagree with that approach because I feel that it is overly simplistic and self defeating. Why would you want to starve the patient to get at the microbe? Anyway, the microbe can just feed off of your body anyway, to get the nutrition that it requires.

The approach that I would use is just what you are doing. Try to eat as much non-toxic food as possible, from a variety of sources. Don't cook fruits and vegetables more than is absolutely necessary because that destroys the natural enzymes, and destroys the living energy promoting properties of the plant.

Don
Posted 3/8/2013 2:46 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks Heathersdad, I feel like this doc I want to see does counsel on anti inflammatory diet for Lyme according to his online food list. One of his patients told me about it too. Hopefully he is flexible. What should I do about this? I emailed him about it,because I dont want to spend $700 for nothing.

I feel like im doin nothing beside diet..chlorella..grapefruit seed extract liquid..milk thistle..turmeric..
Posted 3/8/2013 4:14 AM (GMT 0)
kds86,

Antiinflammatory diet is a good idea actually. I have no problem with that as long as you get the nutrition that you need. Generally healthy foods are anti-inflammatory. Dr. Mercola says to stay away from grains, even whole grains, because they are by nature inflammatory.

Don
Posted 3/10/2013 12:57 PM (GMT 0)
One of the toughest aspects to working with people with illness is working with them on altering their diets.
Many people are so attached to their bad diets, they would rather stay sick than eliminate a food that is causing them distress...now having said that, the diet you say you are following here looks stellar.
You are on the right track.
You cannot do more than that. But not only do you have to eat gluten free bread, you need to take all gluten out of your diet when you're healing.

This way of life can be very expensive, but to cut out cost, not all foods need to be organic. Juicing is also an amazing way to lower inflammation.
If you want foods to lower inflammation, eat ginger, garlic etc. There are some awesome supplements I prescribe to my patients for inflammation, but then you get into the cost factor again.
One of the best supplements for lowering inflammation is Serrapeptase with a Curcumin extract in it, but not sure which brands you can get like this in the US
In Canada there is a professional line called NFH which sells a products called Infla_calm which is the most amazing product to lower inflammation.
But again, this is bringing up your costs.
Posted 3/10/2013 1:54 PM (GMT 0)

This is really interesting Peacesoul,

I've got huge inflammation problems, that prevent me from continuing abx treatment. Besides the overall pain in joints and muscles, gaining lots of weight, it even causes breathing problems. The dr isn't giving me anything for the inflammation.

I've read your answer above, but I'm kind of torn between problems. I have a severe histamine intolerance, I need to avoid all herbs, the only thing I can use (while cooking) is salt and nutmeg... If I don't stick to this restrictive diet, you probably know that it can cause inflammation too. Have you encountered this problem Peacesoul, if so, do you have any alternative ideas?

I sometimes take Daosin that replaces the missing enzyme that breaks down histamine. But I don't know if it's a good idea to take that all the time.

Thank you, and once again kds, sorry for intervening into your thread.

Marie

Posted 3/10/2013 2:51 PM (GMT 0)
Marie....without knowing your full medical background, it's hard to give a firm recommendation, but Serrapeptase is in fact an enzyme and not an herb and may be of a great benefit to you. Google Serrapeptase and Inflammation.
Also, if you're going to order it, make sure it's the best quality brands. Many companies are the market now sell it and it's inferior. Enerex is the BEST brand. If you find another brand, you're more than welcome to msg me and I will check it out for you

Post Edited (peacesoul) : 10/16/2015 6:17:12 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/10/2013 2:52 PM (GMT 0)
and and also Marie, do you follow an anti inflam. diet?
Posted 3/10/2013 3:15 PM (GMT 0)
Peacesoul

I'll do some research on the serrapeptase - thank you.

I'm on a histamine intolerance restrictive diet (no processed food included - I react strongly on additives / 6 pages of foods to eliminate), low fructose diet, lactose free - I try to avoid sugar as much as possible - no food that has been prepared for over 2 hours, cause I react very strongly on oxidized food (feel really sick for 2 whole days).

Don't drink soda's, only water and tea (camomile), no coffee or alcohol, no artificial sweeteners.

I've been reading about eating gluten free, but there's so less left for me to eat that it makes it really difficult to make that step.

I have to peel all of my vegetables, and there's lots of them I just can't eat, so juicing seems impossible.

It's a bit complicated...

Marie

Posted 3/10/2013 10:57 PM (GMT 0)
Well all...unofortunately..I do consume sugar,but usually not added to stuff..natural form..the options near by to me in stores is very low...so I have to buy what I can to get enough nourishment! I do organic fruit juices not from concentrate to mix supplements and herbs in,but no sugar added..

peacesoul...serrapeptase did not do anything for me..so stopped
Posted 3/10/2013 11:08 PM (GMT 0)
I do still do grains to....
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