Am I herxing again, but on herbal protocol now?

I've been trying not to bother all of you with how I'm feeling, trying to answer post from others, sticking with the 'practical' matters... but I'm home alone and not feeling well at all...

Lately, I was getting very comfortable with being alone, at home, just relaxing. I'm not bothered anymore with not having a social life. I have very few, but some really valuable people around me, and that's enough for me.

But I feel like I'm on some kind of emotional swing again...

Maybe I'm herxing on Buhner's Protocol (although I haven't been increasing dosage)????

Is it possible that it comes with a delay?

If that is the case, it's definitely milder on my system than herxing on abx (cause that was too much of it): I have a terrible headache, the skin of my head is really sore, I'm having hot/cold flashes (I turned off the heating, although it's only 6°C outside), creepy crawlies under my skin, my muscles are so tensed, I've got no muscle power at all, appetite is gone again, I have a lot of muscle twitching and I'm feeling really down. 

I haven't forgotten about detoxing.

I need to keep in mind that I'll get through this, but my mind sometimes wanders off... I really feel like an outsider too...

I'm sorry, I just needed to get it off my chest...

Marie, it's good that you posted. Don't hold it in; we're all here to help!

When did you start the herbals? I'm sorry I can't remember, but have you been diagnosed with babesia? Those symptoms sounds like Babesia. Are you on herbals that treats babs?

The emotional stuff definitely comes with herxing for me. I always get depressed and anxious with crying bouts, but can't figure out why. Then, days later I look back and realize I was herxing or in the midst of a flare. Your symptoms definitely sound like either a flare or herxing.

Opugirl,

I'm on an abx break, originally 6 weeks, now in my second 2 weeks - body was too inflamed... I'm kind of scared restarting abx - I won't be doing it like before (full dose right away). I learned my lesson.

Mystery,

I started the herbals about 8 weeks ago I think, might be a week longer. That's a while for the herxing to get started, but maybe it was just building up like Don said. I stopped once for 4 or 5 days and I could definitly feel the symptoms coming back, so I guess it works.

I haven't been diagnozed with Babesia, I don't think I've even been tested on it. I'll get a look at the symptom list...

I was having the crying bouts this last week, and especially last night (I don't look very great this morning with those puffy eyes)...

Don,

it doesn't feel like an allergy... but I'll keep it in mind.

I feel though that Cat's Claw is powerful, and it can sometimes give me palpitations (I think)

Thank you all for your understanding...

Tickledpink,

I'm on (daily) - for the protocol

• Japanese Knotweed - 800mg root extract 
• Cat's Claw - 2000mg
• Eleuthero tincture

1000mg Magnesium citrate a day

Lypo-Spheric Vit C - once a day

B12 (hydroxocobalamin) twice a week, but I need to increase this

Myolastan (muscle relaxer) - helps me sleep through the night

detoxing:
4 coffee enemas per week - 4 foot baths a week (Epsom Salt + hydrogen peroxide) - lots of good water (with lemon when my stomach is up to it) - dry brushing (but not enough)
Is excessive sweating at night also considered a detox ?? that would be a daily one then...
I'll be starting the bentonite clay with Psyllium next weekend, it took a while to receive both ingredients, but I can't do it during the week cause of work.

Is that enough?? I have dandelion root tincture at home, but I always forget taking it.

Marie

Hi Marie, I hope you're feeling better soon.

Post anytime you need to! We are here for you :)

Thank you bluebyyou - you're all so sweet

Well, Japanese Knotweed can cause severe herxing!

You can read about some members' herxing experiences If you type in "Japanese knotweed,herxing" in the google search box at the top of the page.

Tickled

Marie, ok, yes, those are definitely babesia symptoms. Classic symptoms! Yes, the shortness of breath is air hunger. I have it even laying down now, so I know that it's not from POTS or exertion. It feels like I just can't get enough oxygen and I need to take deep breaths in and I'll get a dry cough sometimes from it, which my Dr. said is typical of Babs.

Keep in mind that not all people w/ Babesia have low iron. That's one thing that Dr. Horowitz pointed out in his video interview about babesia. It sounds like some strains cause low iron and others do not. Also, make sure your GP tests your ferritin levels Did you watch that Babesia video by Dr. Horowtiz that I posted on here a while ago? That may be helpful to you.

As far as treatment, if you can't get a Dr. to prescribe the abx., my dr. recommends Stephen Buhner's protocol. She just started me on one of the herbs that he recommends for Babesia, Cryptolepsis (sp?), because the babs abx. can't be combined with the Rifampin abx. that I"m on for Bartonella. Have you been to his website? Read his book?

I'll have a look at that video, I saw it showing up, it wasn't long ago.

I'm on Buhner's Core Protocol right now. But I haven't read his book, I got everything from his website.

That's how I would describe the air hunger: not enough oxygen, even while in bed. Imagine how I squaek when I'm doing a minor physical effort... I had dry coughs for many many years. But it has been worse lately, people even think I've got a bad cold that won't go.

I'm just doing the Lyme herbs now, slowly (I'm a bit scared to do it too quick, cause the abx herxing made me feel like I was dying)

I've got no guidance (except for you all - thank God) on other coinfections. So it'll be up to me to add another protocol to what I'm doing now. I've started watching the video, but it was too long to finish it yesterday evening, I think I'll do that in my lunchbreak at work.