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Posted 8/12/2013 4:19 PM (GMT 0)
Hello everyone!  I am happy to be out of bed the last few days!  I've not been able to get on a computer and type due to several crashes the last couple of weeks.  I stopped the zithro and GSE and gave my body a couple weeks to recover.


After some research (and reading on Buhner's books) I decided to start taking rhodoila and eleutherococcus to help support adrenal healing and energy.  I have been sensing that my adrenals were crashing and I wanted to do something for healing before it got out of hand.  I noticed a difference right away!  Also been drinking Licorice root tea.

My LLND also started me on neuro antitox and I noticed my brain pressure going away and finally after a week my nightly migraines are easing up.  My anxiety is still moderate but I do notice with the herbals that my sleep is a lot better and the anxiety has decreased.

I am starting A-Bart today.  I have become such a phobic that I worked myself into anxiety over it.  Anyway, just taking one drop per day until I settle myself down and am going to take it very slowly.  I will also be starting A-L soon, but again taking it slowly. Anyone have any experience with these Byron White products?  I'm taking them under direction from my LLND.

I have been thinking of and praying for all of you going through these daily struggles.  It is a long road for sure.

So happy to be up I had to post an update and share! 

Anyone else having success with herbals?  I want to learn all I can about alternative routes. 

ps. changed my name to Lyme Rebel, trying to get my positive thoughts in order for battle ;)

Posted 8/12/2013 4:51 PM (GMT 0)
Hey LR!

I can appreciate being in bed all the time - I am currently on my laptop in bed this am and have no intention of moving anytime soon lol...

How long did you do the abx? Where do you get the herbal items you mentioned? I am curious about the herbal route as well although I am on abx I wonder if people try both at the same time?

Love the name Lyme Rebel!
Posted 8/12/2013 4:56 PM (GMT 0)
Hey LymeRebel

I'm doing an herbal protocol also. I feel it is effective yet less intense then the abx. I've had a fair share of herxing taking cats claw and teasel. Especially the neuro symptoms where my skin is biting and tingling. My LLND is really big on supporting the whole system and using heavy antioxidants which I am doing. I think it helps. I also have an infrared sauna which is a life saver.

I tried abx last year and it was just too intense for me. I couldn't do it as I can't stop working. I was glad I made the decision to stop it.

Posted 8/12/2013 5:31 PM (GMT 0)
Dumb question: LLND is Lyme Literate Naturopathic Dr?
Posted 8/12/2013 6:22 PM (GMT 0)
Yes Lilly. I would recommend anyone going the natural route (and even abx) to add systemic enzymes to break up the biofilm like serrapeptase and nattokinase or a formula like Wobenzym or Fibrozym. One of the reasons people don't improve on naturals or abx is that the Lyme spirochetes tend to shield themselves from being killed by hiding in a biofilm that's made of fibrin. You take the enzymes on an empty stomach about a 1/2-1 hour before the herbal killers or abx. Just keep in mind that these enzymes thin the blood so you can't use them if you have a bleeding issue or are on other anti-coagulants such as aspirin or Coumadin.
Posted 8/12/2013 6:36 PM (GMT 0)
I have been doing the nattokinase and definately noticed the drugs penetrating my brain way more. I'm going to continue on this with the herbals.

AngelSB, I took antibiotics for about 2 1/2 months. First doxy and then zithro. The problem is I was on a "child's" dose because I couldn't tolerate it. I continued to lose weight (down to 100lb) and felt like my body was getting too weak to fight anything. I know we killed some bugs because of the herxing so bad but I'm afraid my body can't tolerate or detox fast enough to keep up with the meds.


I am excited about the herbals. Although they are powerful, I can pace myself a bit better and control the herxing. I can't live feel like I'm dying all the time ;( I'm listening to my body now. My LLND is a Naturopathic Dr. who uses both anti biotics and natural routes.

I'll definately keep updated on progress!
Posted 8/12/2013 6:42 PM (GMT 0)
that's exactly how I feel with the herbals, like I can control it much better.

I took Serrepeptase for years before I even knew I had Lyme, I found it helped with my muscle pains. Little did I know how important it was.

Posted 8/13/2013 3:45 PM (GMT 0)
Many of the herbals have their own way of breaking up the biofilms and thinning the blood, so be sure to check with your Practitioner or do your own research first. Abx are another story, they only kill the bacteria, they don't do anything "extra" so many things should be added.

I healed, using only herbs and acupuncture, so best of luck to you!! Hang in there!
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