thoughts on lyme spreading through the air ?

I saw reports of this 10+ years ago overseas...but the reports were squashed by our current medical community as craziness.

But think about it.

CDC just now finally admits the current lyme situation is not 2 times as bad...not 5 times as bad as initially thought...but 10 times !

And I personally know of 5 families in new jersey of where 1 member of a household got lyme (with no tick bite)...and years later the rest of the family got it as well. brothers / sisters / husbands / wives. Never with any noticeable tick bite either.

So what is the deal here....The evidence above HAS to indicate that lyme is spread through other means as well, most likely mosquitoes at-least.

I just wish I had that article from 10 years ago, so I could copy and paste it.

Obviously current medical researchers would disregard it as non-sense, but we've gotta keep an open eye. Lyme is a very complicating illness along with the spirochetes.

nj_to_mo said...


As for being airborne it seems like a stretch but who knows.

I feel like even if it was proved, they'd never admit it...for fear of paranoia.

NJ folk are paranoid enough as is.

It took CDC long enough to admit the situation is 10x's as worse as initially thought.

probably another 10 years for them to admit the possibility of airborne transmission.

If brain-eating parasites could be breathed in through the air (already proven) , then the same is possible with Lyme.

I think the only way it travels by air is on a bird. It is said that's why CA has it worse than OR and WA, is because of the migrating birds.

I don't think it is airborne, otherwise my family would have it and they don't.

I agree, plus it would be so hard to prove...probably why CDC is staying far away from admitting.

Of course, some have powerful immune systems....so not every family is going to be affected in this manner. But if I personally know so many families that have passed it on to other family members without any noticeable tick bites or rashes, then there HAS to be many other similar stories.

It'll probably take CDC another 5 years to admit transmission by mosquitoes ...

And another 10 years to admit transmission through the air...living in close-air contact with lyme patients.

I'd be interested in knowing of doctors / nursing catching it from somewhere that gets a lot of lyme patients daily...lyme disease treatment center or something along those lines.

Any other thoughts on the subject are much appreciated.

We'll probably never get the truth, since it's too hard to prove.

Lyme is one of the most sophisticated / stealthy diseases in the world.

1, 2, or 3 different lyme disease tests can't detect the hundred or more variations of the illness. In which some patients only get half-infected. Some will only get psoriasis, arthritis, or another immune system disorder....their bodies aren't attacking themselves for no reason....there is something there. Most will live their entire lives without ever getting a positive lyme result. (even though they have some variation of it)

Once spirochets infest the lungs, the person is literally a silent, walking, timebomb....unaware themselves they could infect others just by breatheing.

Doctors these days like to make everything seem rosey....take ur anti-biotics and everything will be alright.

Even though most People with Lyme usually never get arid of it....even when caught early. Spirochets are almost impossible to rid 100%.

Agreed...kinda.

But spirochetes are bacteria..and bacteria could survive in the air for a few seconds. Which is all that's needed to transmit / infect.

Very interesting piece on Spirochetes in general. The whole page is interesting, but just a small excerpt :

http://www.lymeneteurope.org/info/the-difficulty-of-culturing-spirochetes

link said...

Spirochetes are in many ways more evolved than other bacteria. At times they almost exhibit animal-like tendencies. Borrelia bacteria have an internal propulsion system that allows them to be highly motile. This is an evolutionary advantage over nonmotile bacteria that allows Borrelia to seek out those areas in a host that are best suited to its needs. The spirochete can swim as easily forward as it can backward, and it now appears that there are receptors for host tissue in both tips of the spirochete. This allows each end of the bacteria to seek out sites of attachment as well as change direction when a better target is located.

The most important adaptation, however, may be the recently observed phenomena that Borrelia burgdorferi may have many morphogenic states and can change their appearance both in shape and chemical structure. Morphogenic changes is another way of saying that the bacteria can adapt itself to the host that it happens to be in, such as a tick, a mouse, or a man. These morphogenic changes may be as subtle as the absence of one surface protein from one division to the next, or, as some have suggested, the spirochete may shed its cell wall entirely and become a spherical-shaped blob, devoid of many of its proteins.

Borrelia bacteria appear to have several layers of protection not commonly seen in other bacteria. One such layer is a glyco-protein gel coat (the S-layer is not commonly seen in-vitro), which has been described as a kind of jelly which can encapsulate the bacteria. Beneath this lies a cell wall, and beneath that is a three-layer membrane. Embedded within the cell wall and membrane are a variety of proteins. Some of these proteins are now known to be receptors to attach to certain host tissues and cells. More insidious in nature are those proteins on the outer cell membrane that seem to be present to purposely fool the immune systems of mammalian hosts.

There was also an episode on animal planet's 'Monsters Inside Me' , (season 1 or season 2) in which a firefighter died from breathing in a brain-eating parasite... They basically blamed his immune system for being susceptible to it...and saying how it's very rare and all that. But still it happened, and i'm curious as to the name of that particular type of parasite. Tried google searching, but found nothing. (so far)

EDIT : found it. Monsters Inside Me - Episode 4 Lurkers

Somebody said...
Sometimes the smallest parasite can take down the bravest host— and while battling wild fires in California, a veteran firefighter develops flu-like symptoms and finds himself in a battle against something far more dangerous then a fire— a rare amoeba that lives in the soil that has attacked his brain.

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