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Posted 2/21/2014 12:10 AM (GMT 0)
In Beating Lyme Disease, it is recommended to start taking borrelogen for two months, followed by lymogen for another two months and then followed by microbojen for another two months.

Jernigan Nutraceuticals (owned by Dr. Sara Jernigan) has an e-book about the different protocols for Lyme disease.

Protocol one includes borrelogen, lymogen, and microbojen to take all on the same day! Three servings of borrelogen, two servings of lymogen, and two servings of microbojen split throughout the day.

Blasting the body might not be a bad idea in this cause since I have found it near impossible to herx for me especially given of all the supplements and antibiotics I'm currently taking with zero herxing (azithromycin, mepron, bactrim ds, samento, banderol, grapefruit seed extract, artemisinin, borrelogen, paragen, and neuro-antitox II).

Thoughts?
Posted 2/21/2014 2:07 PM (GMT 0)
Where's Deejavu??
Posted 2/21/2014 7:40 PM (GMT 0)
Hi cpoly,

Yes, I did read that Dr. Sara is changing things up a bit - don't know how I feel about it. I had minimal herxing for sure compared to most everyone I know. My herbalist then decided, it would be good for me personally to rotate a few things.

I would think it would get pricey doing all three at once.
Posted 2/22/2014 12:02 AM (GMT 0)
Hi cppoly,

This is very confusing!  I just signed up to receive Dr. Sara's e-book so I know exactly what her protocol is.  From what I know, in Dr. J's book "Beating Lyme Disease" he states to take either Borrelogen or Lymogen (Lymogen ONLY if one suspects they may have Bartonella).   Take the Borrelogen for 2 months, stop, then take Microbojen for 2 months, stop, then take Borrelogen, Microbojen together for 2 or 3 months.   This is the protocol I followed and the only other supplement I added was the Neuro-Antitox CNS/PNS formula during the duration of the protocol.

I personally do not think it's a good idea to take all the supplements you listed at the same time.  Dr. David states that the reason he rotates his botanicals (which he invented and tested, not Dr. Sara), is because the body builds up a resistance to each botanical.   Dr. Sara handles the shipping end of the botanicals to my knowledge. 

Also, by taking all these supplements mixed with azithromycin, mepron, bactrim ds, etc. how do you know what is working  and what is not?    My motto was always to keep it simple.  If you have a reaction, you won't know what you are reacting to.  I started with Borrelogen alone for 4 weeks just to see how I felt then I "introduced" the neuro-antitox formula.  

I hope this helps,

Denise

Posted 2/22/2014 1:30 AM (GMT 0)
Interesting, thank you for checking this out Denise. You should receive the ebook from Dr. Sara in a day or two. Here's where I'm torn: I agree in keeping things simple and think Dr. Jernigan's recommendation about two month rotations make sense in that regard. But I also think it is intriguing to "switch, switch, switch" as mentioned in the Dr. Sara's ebook. By taking all three in the same day as outlined in protocol one or taking one for three days then another for three days and another for another three days as outlined in protocol two both present an interesting case for keeping the body guessing. By taking one of these protocols one or two, I think it makes the best case for maximum rotation. One of the reasons why I'm inclined to also try protocol one or two is because I've found it is impossible to herx so far. Since I've had almost a month to test my body's ability to detox and haven't herded (edit: herxed, stupid auto correct) yet, I feel like I have the green light to try this protocol. Herxing aside, would you think this type of approach would produce the best results in the shortest amount of time? I'm not looking for a shortcut, just the most effective plan.

Post Edited (cppoly) : 2/21/2014 6:44:42 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/22/2014 3:43 PM (GMT 0)
Hi again cppoly,

I really don't know what to say.  I'm still waiting for Dr. Sara's ebook.   I don't have a good feeling that Dr. Sara is listing a protocol that is different then Dr. David's protocol.   Something strange is going on here.  I wonder if Dr. Sara is doing this to make more money??    Or perhaps she's competing with her ex-husband.  Again, I don't know.  I wish I really knew what was going on "behind the scenes" in this situation.

You have to do what feels right for yourself.   Again, something does not sit right with me as far as Dr. Sara's switching around every 3 days.  It takes time for Borrelogen to work and stopping it after 3 days does not make sense to me.  confused

Just my thoughts so far,

Denise

Posted 2/22/2014 4:21 PM (GMT 0)
@ Deejavu - I know Dr Jernigan would referr to the protocol we are using as being designed by a "flat earth" herbalist. We are doing well with the herbs we are using, but coming up on a year now of using them (although we only started cryptolepis in Nov, the rest of the bart protocol has been in place since last April).

I would like to incorporate Jernigen's protocol, but wonder if it would be compatible with herbal treatments or other treatments. I have to say I was a little sceptical of Jernigan's mention of the liquid crystal matrix and coherent frequencies but am now slogging my way through May-Wan Ho's The Rainbow and the Worm which goes into this concept in great detail. So interesting that all may not be as we have been taught. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq_wvlXnjXc


When you mention your protocol above, did you also do the coffee enemas? I am so holding out on this part. I can't bring myself to do this, let alone for our 12 year old.

Posted 2/22/2014 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
I do hope that this problem between the 2 Dr's Jernigan can be resolved.
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