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Posted 2/25/2014 8:20 PM (GMT 0)
Any thoughs on whether low dose of lyme herbs could be helpful or make things worse for people with lyme/co-infections, etc.?

Herbs like cats claw, sweet annie, japanes knotwood, etc.

Thanks
Posted 2/25/2014 11:12 PM (GMT 0)
I've wondered this same thing. I'm not diagnosed with Lyme (yet), or on a treatment protocol, but there is definitely something living in my lymph nodes.

For what it is worth, I noticed no difference with Cats Claw, less susceptibility to catching bugs with Andrographis, and less lymph node swelling, less fever, and less susceptibility to catching bugs with a Quassia Amara tea I make out of the bark. With the Quassia tea, it seems I can chase away even bacterial infections if I catch them early. It kills some strains of malaria and head lice. I find it to be a very interesting bark, but I just want to put it out there that Quassia Amara can be dangerous under certain circumstances and cause irreversible vision loss, so do research to ensure its safe for your body.

I no longer routinely use anything except Quassia as needed for symptoms because I'm hoping to find an LLMD in Illinois and get some direction.

Post Edited (JackieM89) : 2/25/2014 4:15:19 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/25/2014 11:28 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Jackie and welcome! Have you asked for help finding a doctor on here? In not, just start a new post and say something like "looking for LLMD in ______" You will need to make sure your email is enabled in your profile so people can send you the names of doctors. We can't post them on the forum.

Good question X.
Posted 2/26/2014 12:25 AM (GMT 0)
I would ask why not use the full dose? Herbs are generally a lot less expensive than prescriptions.
Posted 2/26/2014 12:51 AM (GMT 0)
Cause of coinfections, it's sometimes hard to tell if symptoms are lyme or other infections. Last night I was getting sinus headaches pressure and if it's parasite I'd rather not stir things up and lyme maybe a little herb might help.

It's a little confusing but have appointment lined up with parasite doctor again and will see if he's open about parasite meds even though the labs here couldn't order tests for 'rare' in America parasites. I have meds though for it but prefer to take it with doctor recommendations if possible.

Post Edited (Xelaetaks) : 2/25/2014 6:02:41 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/26/2014 1:04 AM (GMT 0)
Well, according to Buhner, low doses will work:
"The herbs will work in lower doses. Every person should adjust it for their particular responses and symptoms."

buhnerhealinglyme.com/basics/herbs-in-low-doses-effective/

So I would say give it a whirl. Ramp up very slowly so that you can track your responses.....and let us know how you are doing!!
Posted 2/26/2014 1:17 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the info. Helps to know.
Posted 2/26/2014 1:34 AM (GMT 0)
It's all about having information so that you know your options. Glad I could be of help!
Posted 2/26/2014 5:45 PM (GMT 0)
Garden Peace, I did a post yesterday and then piggybacked in two other posts I saw for LLMDs in/near Illinois. So far, I've gotten one response.

It's sad how nervous everyone has to be about sharing information. I can't wait until the day these chronic infectious diseases are understood widely!

I went to an Infectious Disease doctor yesterday who, while very nice and clearly wishing she could help, said she didn't believe diseases could move into tissues/lymph nodes and "hide" from the body's radar, resulting in WBC and other measures of infection looking fine on labs. I mean, these same doctors tell us to get a flu shot every year because the flu bug mutates based on its environment.. She told me over the past 6 years with other doctors, I've had a million dollar work up. I wasn't surprised, but it is shocking that it is the accepted norm.
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