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Posted 5/17/2014 2:34 AM (GMT 0)
my son seems to have come down with maybe a little flu bug or something.

this evening he started to feel nauseous, badly, and was warm to the touch. He said his stomach was hurting badly and just didn't look good.

I know stomach issues can come from abx, and actually are a pretty common symptom of his; but he's only been feverish once really in all of his time with lyme (since last fall), and usually does not feel nauseous. Even with 12+ weeks of abx he hasn't said he felt like he was going to throw up once, or been feverish.

so, I'm thinking it could be a virus maybe; I've read there's a flu going around.

My question, is…any advice on how to help him get over it faster?
I'm thinking water, absolutely no sugary foods (lately treats, here and there, have been slipping in at parties, etc.), extra vitamin D, epsom salt foot bath in the morning, lots of vitamin C and A foods tomorrow. (he's asleep right now)

Anything else? If it's not a bug, than I suppose it could be a bad herx in which case those things will help too.
Thanks for any thoughts.
Posted 5/17/2014 12:41 PM (GMT 0)
Hi stacestar -

What your son is experiencing seems less like the flu and more like a Candida flareup to me. What is suspicious is his stomach hurts and he has nausea, which is exactly what I get. You usually do not see this with a traditional flu. So Ive got to ask if you are taking a ton of probitoics, specifically Saccharomyces Boulardii?

Ive been on ABXs for years now and S. Boulardii plus broad spectrum probiotics, as well as prebiotics are mandatory if you ask me.
Posted 5/17/2014 1:16 PM (GMT 0)
If it is a virus, Elderberry is very helpful as it prevents the virus from replicating (i.e., acts like "birth control" for viruses)...
Posted 5/17/2014 2:11 PM (GMT 0)
thanks vast and Razzle for the ideas.

Vcast,
I do give him probiotics; he gets one with 45 billion cultures a day (used to get one with 50 billion up until a week ago, but I bought a different one to save a little, $23. vs. $40. for the 50 billion.)
I'm not giving him the Sacch. Boulardii b/c he had PANS in the beginning of this all (last fall) and I read a couple of places that sometimes some children had PANS flare ups with the Sacch. (like increase in motor tics and anxiety etc.) and his PANS symptoms have really been much better (no motor tics even, thank God) and didn't want to stir that up. It has something to do with the strep bacteria. He did test very negative for strep just a month ago or so, so maybe it would be worth trying the Sacc. now. I'll consider it and read more about it and PANS.
He does feel much better today though. Is that typical for a candida flare; I mean for it to come and go in about 12-14 hours? He was pretty warm all through the night (I slept with him and would feel his forehead through out the night), but when he woke up this morning, he didn't have a temp. at all, and said his tummy felt ok.
I've heard of prebiotics, but don't know how they're different. I'll look into those too. Hope it wasn't candida.

and Razzle, I'll look into the elderberry too, thanks for the tip.
Posted 5/17/2014 5:27 PM (GMT 0)
Hey StaceStar, I had those symptoms in late Februaury PLUS really bad sore throat- raw feeling. Took Platinum Brand cold & flu Oregano - 8 ( that's how it is worded on the front of the bottle ) - took 2 capsules 3x day and in a week and a half those flu symptoms were gone. Those are adult doses though. For me, worked so well. It's horrible to feel like you have flu symptoms!! Hope he gets real better soon!!
Posted 5/17/2014 7:03 PM (GMT 0)
Bone broth with some ginger might be helpful. I had a GI bug a while back, so it's going around.
Posted 5/17/2014 7:21 PM (GMT 0)
MMMMMMMmmmm - GardenPeace, I could go for some o'that right now!!
Posted 5/19/2014 12:52 AM (GMT 0)
how is he doing today??
Posted 5/19/2014 2:08 AM (GMT 0)
hi Chapelle
he's did good today, thanks. The tummy thing/nausea and temperature was on Friday night and thank goodness by Sat. morning he was cool to the touch with no temperature and said his tummy was better. He didn't have much of an appetite until Sat. late afternoon though.
So, not sure if it was a flu bug or a big herx, but thankfully he got over it/through it quickly.
today was a good day except for weak hands in the morning (peripheral neuropathy maybe? which has been a symptom from back in Nov.-Feb.) and toes that hurt, but that seemed to pass within a half hour.
despite these things still showing up now and then he's still doing so much better, so I won't worry.

I think of your post on staying positive often; it was good advice. I've always believed he'd get over this, but admit I've gotten discouraged before with the timeline, so instead now I just try to always stay/think positive, and keep it in perspective that he is getting better and quickly, relatively!
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