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Posted 5/31/2014 7:54 PM (GMT 0)
I started taking Samento about a week ago and started herxing. The Burbur tincture eases the symptoms for a while. Later in the week I added Pinella to also do neuro detox. My herx seems to get worse when I take Pinella. Could it be somehow helping to kill something off and adding to the herx?
Posted 5/31/2014 8:26 PM (GMT 0)
Well it was under my understanding that pinella was supposed to be used to clear out toxins in the brain and nerves.

BUT there is a story of someone who cured their Lyme disease using minocycline, tinidazole, wild cherry bark, red zinger tea, and pinella.

He claims there is a compound in pinella that can actually kill the spirochetes. It's the same compound in the wild cherry bark and red zinger tea. Apparently it kills them regardless or not if they are replicating.
Posted 6/1/2014 3:28 AM (GMT 0)
Hmmm... Interesting... Yeah, I haven't had brain fog relief from it but rather get more achy and knee pain intensifies. Might have to add that to my treatment protocol rather than detox! Is the A-Bart helping you?
Posted 6/1/2014 3:32 AM (GMT 0)
Yup I think the A-Bart helped. I am done the bottle now and I don't have any more Bartonella symptoms. So maybe it did work?
Posted 10/15/2016 3:56 PM (GMT 0)
I just took Pinella for two days (10 drops in 4oz of water once a day) and I not only had depression, but a day of full blown herx symptoms - 101 fever, chills and my entire body ached. I stopped taking it. Rather deal with brain fog. After a day it was gone.
Posted 10/15/2016 4:53 PM (GMT 0)
Bikergirl517 maybe you took too much? Just guessing. You could also be allergic to Pinella.

So sorry you had to go through this.

This lyme is such a trial and error thing.
Posted 10/15/2016 5:01 PM (GMT 0)
bikergirl - Because pinella is a brain-nerve cleanse - maybe when you took it, you mobilized too many toxins in your brain...causing the herx.

Maybe go down to once a day with only 5 drops...and do this daily...before you increase to 10 drops once a day.
See how that goes.
Posted 10/15/2016 5:02 PM (GMT 0)
Also, - what else are you doing to detox?

Are you dry brushing your skin ?
Taking a binder?
Posted 10/15/2016 6:00 PM (GMT 0)
Thank u. I am not doing any other detox.
Posted 10/15/2016 6:08 PM (GMT 0)
okay - time to start.

Stick with the pinella and burbur...but lower your dose and do once a day...see how that works.

Start with a few detoxes: drink plenty of water - 8 glasses per day...add some fresh squeezed lemon juice into some glasses. drink with a straw as it can damage tooth enamel...rinse mouth with clear water afterwards...and don't brush teeth right away.

Add liver support - toxins build up in the liver, we need to assist it.
Milk thistle extract - you can get at a health food store...or grocery stores with health sections.

Then, every few days add in a new detox.
Here are some ideas:

- Alka seltzer gold

- dry brushing your skin

- epsom salt baths - start first with foot baths and warm water...only soak feet for a few minutes at first...then gradually increase the time

- binder - eg; activated charcoal

are you on good probiotics? I take a few different types...
That is a must.

Here is a link to a website with lots of ideas:


www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html
Posted 10/15/2016 8:48 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you all. I appreciate your suggestions and kindness.

I took Emergen-C, all day yesterday, just did a liver cleanse last month (Core Restre) and do take good probiotics daily. I have been drinking a lot of water and even had hot water with lemon thru the day.
I just relocated to Florida and don't have a LLMD here so I think I am going to stop until I find someone who can monitor the detox/treatment as this scared the heck out of me. Had two flareups over the years since my initial diagnosis 17 years ago and this was by far the worst herx since the initial treatment.

Again many thanks.
Be well,
Phyllis
Posted 10/15/2016 8:56 PM (GMT 0)
Phyllis - I used to take Emergen-C prelyme. But it has sugar in it.

If I were you, I would find a Vitamin C source that doesn't have sugar...

And, if I'm remembering correctly emergen - c also has magnesium...so you can supplement with that as well.
Posted 7/31/2021 1:14 PM (GMT 0)
I know this post is super old bt I just reply. I took just 1 drop of pinella and thought oh cool because its supposed to be a neuro detox, so great right? I felt so screwed up like a herx or idk. I felt totally zoned out and brain fogged just I felt really slow. I panicked but time.it must kill something off for sure , the burbur didnt even do that to me!
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