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Posted 8/2/2014 1:58 PM (GMT 0)
Disclaimer-I am not diagnosed with Lyme. I suspect it and am in the process of getting my PCP to hopefully send bloodwork to Igenex.

I cut out gluten, processed sugar and dairy 12 days ago. I also took some herbal detox/cleansing pills from a company called First Fitness Nutrition. They have dandelion, milk thistle, etc It was a 10 day cleanse that I finished earlier this week. I felt great days 1-6. Day 7 I had a gluten free cider and a beer (on a cleanse, bad idea I know). Day 8 I felt like I had the flu, complete with fever reaching 101 F. That lasted right at 24 hours. I was so achy and fatigued I literally couldn't drag myself out of bed. I finished up the cleanse pills and have eaten very clean the rest of the week. I feel good except my neuro symptoms that make me suspect Lyme are worse. I don't have headaches or cognition issues but I have had tingling and buzzing feelings throughout my body for over a year and they are much worse this week. I don't really know what to make of the increased symptoms or the 1 day "flu" following the 2 alcoholic beverages. Any suggestions?

I am taking epsom salt baths a few days a week and am walking or jogging several days a week. I have been juicing daily as well.

Post Edited (windypetunia) : 8/2/2014 8:23:03 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/2/2014 2:45 PM (GMT 0)
Hi windypetunia -

Welcome… I'm sure a moderator will come along to welcome you and point you toward the introductory fundamentals info that is awesome and necessary to read.

Your episode could be due to numerous things, given your suspicion of lyme. My 6th sense is that your reaction to the alcoholic drinks might indicate a yeast/fungal overgrowth flare. I am fluent in yeast/fungal problems unfortunately, and the symptoms are spot-on and if you do have that issue you'll need to address it specifically with antifungals. The lyme infection loves alcohol sugar byproducts, as well.

You are doing so many other things well—keep at them. Once your test results come in, if there is even the slightest possibility that they might be positive (most 'regular' docs aren't going to know how to interpret the test properly, much less provide the right treatment), you should really find an LLMD and go from there. While you're waiting you can do that search.

Hope this helps -

-p
Posted 8/2/2014 2:54 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the reply! I don't seem prone to vaginal yeast infections and have nursed 2 babies in the last few years without thrush, can you have a yeast problem without those overt type of symptoms?

I've been through the New to Lyme thread and have gotten LLMD recs from Traveler and the ILADS. I had my neuro run a Lyme test but all that was done was an Elisa which was negative. I have a history of tick bites, and have had MRIs, EMGs, and vials and vials of bloodwork trying to get to the bottom of the neuropathy to no avail. The only bloodwork that came back abnormal was an elevated ANA that 2 docs have told me is meaningless. I'm not convinced thought.

There are times I think this can't be lyme because I'm not THAT sick. I can function, work out, work, etc. But I know it's a possibility and I'm trying to leave no stone unturned.
Posted 8/2/2014 3:12 PM (GMT 0)
Problems without overt sx—that's a good question.

I doubt it, you're likely to notice problems but they can be mistaken for other problems, too. Yeast/fungal overgrowth can happen in the gut, too. I also had a systemic problem, meaning, the yeast/fungus was in my blood stream and therefore all over my body. I had vaginal yeast infections but I also had evidence in my sinuses, ears, mouth, skin, GI tract, etc… It took a loooooong time to connect it all because I also have a nice long list of lyme & co. symptoms. Yeast/fungal issues can also cause joint pain and other sx that are similar to lyme sx. But once I started on some high-powered antifungals (I'd been doing natural treatment without success) I really started to impact the systemic problems.

And I was convinced there, for a short while, that I didn't have lyme—just a systemic yeast problem. But due to 13-months of chronic sinusitis and bronchitis (I'm convinced were due to the fungus) and several courses of antibiotics and steroids, the lyme, Bartonella, and Babesia symptoms started appearing and then that's when I had the lyme & co tests, which were irrefutably positive unfortunately. Anyway, once the fungal issues were a little better under control I started the lyme & co. treatment, which is where I am now.

I hear you about being mostly functional. I've had lyme for about 15 yrs I think and most of that time I was functional. But in retrospect, I'm now aware that I was also in a lot of pain and can now explain some strange disconnections between my body and my brain (neuro lyme) so I think I was much sicker than I realized. And when doctors and others try to explain every problem away as "normal aging" you're more inclined to look past things. And then BAM… like I mentioned, once I started taking a bunch of varied abx (which stirred up the lyme & co) the lyme sx started screaming and that's what finally led me to my lyme diagnosis. Soooo many lyme patients have varied journeys like that.

And the LLMDs who have been recommended to you will likely do the more accurate tests.

hope this helps -

-p
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