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Posted 9/9/2014 11:09 AM (GMT 0)
Came across some interesting info about Jap Knotweed by Klinghardt:

Polygonum cuspidatum (Japanese Knotweed)
Peer review literature/Science

Effective against:

􀂾 Leptospirosis
􀂾 Treponema denticola (spirochets in oral flora)
􀂾 Bartonella (Buhner)
􀂾 Many gram neg and gram pos bacteria
􀂾 Anti-viral
􀂾 Hepatitis B (and C?)
Other published positive effects:
􀂾 Crosses blood brain barrier: anti-inflammatory, antimicrobial, protects against microbial endotoxins
􀂾 High content of resveratrol increases microcirculation (vasodilation and inhibits platelet aggregation: pos effect on eye, heart, skin (ideal synergist)
􀂾 Lowers cholesterol and lipids
􀂾 Increases wound healing
􀂾 Angiogenesis modulator
􀂾 Ischemic heart disease
􀂾 Potent antioxidant
􀂾 Inhibits lipoxygenase (anti-inflammatory)
􀂾 Inhibition prostaglandin E
􀂾 Inhibits nuclear factor kappa B (NF kB) which upregulated in Lyme causing a cascade of immune mediated cellular responses
􀂾 Leukemia
􀂾 Stimulates fibroblasts (proliferative effect)
􀂾 Rheumatoid arthritis
􀂾 Psoriasis
􀂾 Increases bone mass
􀂾 Anti-aging
􀂾 Reduces auto-immunity
􀂾 Strongly neuroprotective
􀂾 Effects against: ALS, Alzheimer, Parkinson MS cerebral ischemia
􀂾 Stimulates microcirculation in brain

Dosage: Whole herb (Hu Zhang) standardized to 8% total resveratrols and 10 mg resveratrol. Source Naturals 500 mg tablet.
Use 3-4 caps 3-4 times/day. Work up slowly to this dose

Contraindications: Pregnancy, Consider carefully when giving with blood thinners (synergistic effect)

Overdose: GI-symptoms

www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/lyme/Herbs_used_in_treating_Lyme.pdf

-p
Posted 9/9/2014 12:57 PM (GMT 0)
We have used this for several years now. I use 1/3 tsp powdered herb 3x daily infused in hot water, cooled and drunk.

Our 13 yo daughter uses the same amount of infused powdered herb and also takes 1/4 tsp of the WoodLandEssence tincture 3x daily.

Buhner used to recommend the SourceNaturals tablets, and that is what we used to purchase, but some people on his website complained of side effects (not sure what those were) and so he now recommends the powdered herb from 1stChineseHerbs, or the WoodLandEssence tincture.

I actually prefer the powdered herb. It is much cheaper, easy to make into tea - just measure the herb into a cup and cover with hot water, cover to prevent the volatile oils from evaporating, cool and drink. There is also not the concern about fillers (capsules are full of them).

We don't find Japanese knotweed to be very antimicrobial, but it does work very well as an anti-inflammatory. We use turmeric as well for inflammation.
Posted 9/9/2014 1:43 PM (GMT 0)
Buhner includes Japanese Knotweed in his core protocols across lyme, bart, and myco so far. And I'm sure it will be included for Babs in his new book.

I tried a 4 oz bottle from Woodland Essence last year, adding it to my Cat's Claw, CSA, GSE and ACV twice a day cocktail. I saw little results and have since backed off on much of my treatment protocol.
Posted 9/9/2014 1:50 PM (GMT 0)
If you read Buhner's books he mentions in one of them that different types of extractions remove different components of the herbs making them more available for use in the body.

Infusions or decoctions in water will extract different components than will tinctures made with alcohol. Even the different temperatures water moves through during cooling will extract different components of the herb being used. That is why the infusions are covered and cooled before drinking - to extract as many constituents as possible as the herb passes through various temperatures.

Acid extraction is different yet again - this is what happens when dried herbs are taken in capsules (assuming there is proper production of stomach acid).

We use both the dried herb infusion and the tincture to insure a maximum number of constituents will be available. The infused herbs are finally extracted with stomach acid when they are swallowed.
Posted 9/9/2014 4:16 PM (GMT 0)
On his website, Buhner also recommends Green Dragon Botanicals if you want the capsule form.
Posted 9/9/2014 4:31 PM (GMT 0)
rowingmom—

Good stuff, thanks. I might look into the powder form. I try to avoid most pill forms of anything if I can. Seems like manufacturers are more apt to shove other things in there than with other forms. I am highly sensitive to alcohol but I don't notice any alcohol in the tincture although it is in there.

I, too, have found that the tincture (I'm currently using BioPure but they are sold out at this time) is superior with reducing inflammation (I immediately lost 5 lbs and my joints started behaving). But I have felt/noticed no other responses. I'm not sure I do so well on herbs, unfortunately—with high doses I don't really have much reaction.

-p
Posted 9/9/2014 4:41 PM (GMT 0)
@ Pirouette - high doses of Buhner's specific bartonella/babesia herbs do nothing? Houttuynia, sida acuta, cryptolepis, alchornea, bidens?

Wow. I'm sorry to hear that. We tried A-Bart during abx treatment and the herxing was bad, but after reaching 20 drops 3x daily and staying there for 6 months there was no resolution of symptoms. No healing, just herxing. At least with Buhner's herbs our daughter is now asymptomatic.
Posted 9/9/2014 4:58 PM (GMT 0)
I should be more specific—

I've been on high doses of AL-Complex, A-Bab and A-Bart, and JK, for about 3 months now and I've been taking quite a few for detoxing (Burbur, Parlsey, Pinella, Milk thistle seed, Burdock root) since Feb. And I have very mild—if at all noticeable responses, other than the inflammation reduction due to the JK. I'm starting Rocephan via IV this week and will add Malarone/Mepron. But I really wanted to get a better response from the herbs… LLMD is having me continue with them after starting IV. I will see how this goes—I am avidly following other's accounts on Buhner's protocol.

Thanks for sharing your and your daughter's journey—it's a fascinating and heart-warming story. I mentioned this on another thread but it would be so wonderful if you could document it somehow.

-p
Posted 9/9/2014 5:23 PM (GMT 0)
@ Pirouette - I'm not sure how ByronWhite is supposed to work, whether it is antimicrobial in nature or if it's supposed to be purely homeopathic and help the body energetically defend itself against each specific infection - I only know A-L and A-Bart didn't help us and only caused herxing.

The rest of the herbs you mention are not specifically antimicrobial, so although detoxing is good and necessary, sometimes antimicrobials are needed as well for an herbal protocol to be effective. Please don't say herbs don't work for you if you have not used the entire protocol. People looking for alternatives to abx may be disheartened.
Posted 9/11/2014 10:26 AM (GMT 0)
Rowingmom—

My memory is not good but I was not under the impression that the AL-Complex, A-Bart and A-Bab were homeopathic and are microbial. Plus, the concentration of the herbs in the tinctures just seem to high for it to be homeopathic, but I admit I'm not certain about this.

Regardless, you're right about making careful statements, though! I am not using the full protocol and certainly don't want to discourage anyone from using herbs. I fully believe in the herbals and continue to use them assuming they are helping in some ways. The herbs I've taken for detox have worked quite well. I had high liver enzymes (due to my aintifungals) and the MST and Burdock root brought them down immediately. I think the Pinella is also very effective. I don't know about the Parsley and Bur Bur but won't dare stop taking them.

And an update to my previous statements: After forgetting to take them for almost a week, I increased my dose last week to 30 drops each A-Bart and A-Bab and and I am clearing having some increased Babesia and Bart sx (overcome with a humid, suffocating dampness throughout whole body—not just my feet, diarrhea, painful feet, insomnia, night sweats, loss of appetite, etc…) So, I'd say I'm getting a reaction finally.

-p
Posted 9/11/2014 1:58 PM (GMT 0)
Wow - 30 drops each! I would expire at those dosages! For me 5 drops of A-Bart caused significant pressure in my head and behind my eyes, and the sudden plunge into depression wasn't fun either.
Posted 9/11/2014 5:29 PM (GMT 0)
Deep depression is not fun. I have been there, and it is so hard to convince yourself it is a herx.

Glad you have backed off on everything Mister Mike. Julie told me that treating for long periods with low doses is as effective as short periods at high doses. She said that as long as you are using multiple herbs there should be no risk of the bacteria developing resistance.

We both feel so much better that I wouldn't really mind staying on the low dose Buhner protocols indefinitely. It's a small price to pay for getting our lives back!
Posted 9/12/2014 12:51 AM (GMT 0)
rowingmom—
Well, one good thing about your reaction to the BW tinctures is that it is more economical than mine! ;)

And your statement about resistance—good to know.

to you and MM—
I totally agree. I, too, have been in some deep dark places at times and it sure doesn't feel like a herx. Interested to hear more about your experiences on the protocol and with "Julie"—keep posting!

-p
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