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Posted 9/11/2014 4:42 AM (GMT 0)
Hey! Can anyone shed some light on what these results mean?

Igenex IGM result - POSITIVE
CDC result - POSITIVE

18 kDA +
**23-25 kDa -
28 kDa -
30 kDa -
**31 kDa ++
**34 kDa IND
**39 kDa +
**41 kDa ++
45 kDa -
58 kDa -
66 kDa -
**83-93 kDa IND

IGENEX IGG RESULT. POSITIVE
CDC RESULT. NEGATIVE

18 kDa ++
**23-25 kDA +
28 kDa -
30 kDa -
**31 kDa IND
**34 kDa IND
**39 kDa IND
**41 kDa ++
45 kDa -
58 kDa -
66 kDa -
**83-93 kDa -

Thank you!!

Post Edited (Lynn1980) : 9/11/2014 12:14:52 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/11/2014 5:26 AM (GMT 0)
They mean you definitely have Lyme disease. You need to find an LLMD. Post a new thread titled "Need LLMD in (whatever area)" and we will try to help.

Welcome to the forum!
Posted 9/11/2014 5:42 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you for the quick response! What is the difference between IGG and IGM?

Is there a way to tell how bad the infection is from these results? What I mean is, are these particularly high (or low) results? I am guessing low because it is cdc negative for one of them, but I feel so sick.

Thanks again!
Posted 9/11/2014 6:16 AM (GMT 0)
How long have you been sick?
Posted 9/11/2014 6:27 AM (GMT 0)
My constant headache, exhaustion, tinnitus & brain fog began a year and a half ago. Other symptoms slowly piled on, including...
- 24hr facial pain
- vertigo & dizziness
- short term memory loss
- muscle twitching
- sinus infections (never had them b4)
- migraines
Posted 9/11/2014 12:07 PM (GMT 0)
Immunoglobulin M (IgM), which is found mainly in the blood and lymph fluid, is the first antibody to be made by the body to fight a new infection.

Immunoglobulin G (IgG), the most abundant type of antibody, is found in all body fluids and protects against bacterial and viral infections.

I've had the infection for 15 yrs, I didn't show as positive as you, but Lyme is known as the great deceiver, it can hide from the immune system. Now that I've been in treatment for 9 months I would probably show more positive.

I think but not positive but if you have it for a year it is considered chronic.

Did you read the first post on the forum, New to Lyme, there is a ton of info and something that describes what each band means.

Others will chime in who know a lot more than I do, good luck with treatment, I know I feel much better with my treatment.
Posted 9/11/2014 12:45 PM (GMT 0)
Those are extremely positive results. You really won't find a more positive result and I've seen dozens of IGeneX WBs. My results were very positive as well yet I'm not as sick as most so there's really no correlation to how sick you are. Consider yourself lucky though to have no doubt.
Posted 9/12/2014 3:55 AM (GMT 0)
I also recently found out I have mold in my sinuses (ENT did a swab during a sinus infection), so I was starting to wonder if it was a mold issue instead of Lyme, but it sounds like my results are pretty high. I must have both. Ugh.
Posted 9/12/2014 11:59 AM (GMT 0)
Lynn—

Many mold sensitivity, yeast/fungal overgrowth, and lyme & co. symptoms overlap. Mold treatment can be a little tricky—but there are a few posters here who have some good experience and would likely offer some good info if you post specifically about it. Also—I have found this website to be a great resource: www.survivingmold.com

Your immune system is being pulled in a couple different directions. In order to heal from the lyme, it needs to be a little stronger. My LLMD started me off with tackling my very high viral load and chronic sinusitis and bronchitis that was due to yeast/fungus/mold so she also had me on a local (gut) and systemic anti-fungals. It took 3-4 months to effect those issues with meds and I also implemented a pretty strict diet to support the treatment. Only then did we start herbal treatment for lyme, babesia and bartonella.

So, you should familiarize yourself with lyme symptoms and also symptoms of other common co-infections to help your LLMD determine if you should also be tested for them.

Good luck and post back to let us know how it's all going for you!

-p
Posted 9/13/2014 4:24 AM (GMT 0)
I originally got the lyme diagnosis through LabCorp about a month ago, and then the Igenex results have now confirmed it.

I'd been very sick for a year and half and was beyond relieved to FINALLY get a diagnosis, BUT I started treating my Lyme three weeks ago, and I'm already on my second LLMD. I had a very rough/depressing start.

The first LLMD I went to was very nice, but did not seem to worry about the mold issues at all. I was put on Doxy and hydroxychloroquine and I got a MASSIVE sinus infection right away. He told me to double my doxy dose, and it got better for a hot second and then WAY worse. My ENT took a swab and found the mold. When I told my LLMD about it, he didn't change or do anything. I was pretty depressed and discouraged at this point. I thought finding an LLMD would finally get me better, and my gut was telling me that this guy was not going to do that. SO…I tried a new LLMD.

My new LLMD seems amazing - much more knowledgable. She put me on Nystatin, Cholestryamine, and a no sugar diet. She also took me off Doxy and hydroxychloroquine put me on Ceftin and I'll be adding Zithromax in two weeks (and a ton of supplements). I actually already feel better. So…we shall see. I'm trying to stay hopeful.
Posted 9/13/2014 5:24 AM (GMT 0)
Congrats on finding a good LLMD!
Posted 9/13/2014 5:50 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Lynn,
Welcome to our community!

I'm so very glad that you found a good LLMD that understands those mold issues! There really aren't very many yet as far as I know. There are an increasing number of Lyme patients finding out they also have issues with mold.

Have you read through our "New to Lyme? Start here!" thread that sits at the top of the forum? If not, I would greatly encourage you to as it's packed with important and helpful information - from symptom lists, and detoxing suggestions, to links to helpful articles and pdf's.
Posted 9/14/2014 6:12 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you, Traveler! I have started reading all of the "new to lyme" info. I've been reading as much as I can, like Dr. Horowitz's book and various material my LLMD has given me/recommends. There's so much to take in! It's overwhelming sometimes, to say the least. It's also frustrating to weed through contradictory info (and doctors). My biggest saving grace is that I am originally from CT, so I know people who have had chronic Lyme and fully recovered. I'm planning on making a bunch of phone calls this week to pick their brains.

Mister Mike - I wonder why so many Lyme patients have mold issues. Perhaps it is just from the compromised immune system. Or, maybe it is all of the antibiotics. I have had luck with antibiotics treating the Lyme, but it definitely exacerbates the mold issues. However, this new mold treatment seems to be working alongside the antibiotics very well. I was able to go for a long walk today (haven't been able to do that in a month), and it was pretty fantastic. I'm also getting my brain back, and it's only been a week! It's amazing to be able to think clearly again. I just hope it lasts.
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