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Posted 9/14/2014 2:36 PM (GMT 0)
Calcium not necessarily dairy per say. My favorite almond milk is enriched with calcium, but I drink a couple splashes in my espresso. not even 1/4 a cup. Is that really going to make a difference while I'm on doxy (and drinking it within a hr of taking it?)

Is the rule NO calcium at all? Bc so many foods have calcium enriched.
Posted 9/14/2014 4:07 PM (GMT 0)
Calcium reduces the serum concentrations (blood levels) of the Doxy - so yes, they need to be at least 2 - 3 hours apart -sorry.

goo.gl/ypPXhL Takes you to Drugs.com's "professional interaction data" for Calcium & Doxy
Posted 9/14/2014 5:53 PM (GMT 0)
What happens is that the doxy actually binds the calcium. It is a chelator kind of action. The general rule is you don't want high calcium foods in your stomach while you take the doxy as this will bind with the doxy and render it inactive. Also calcium will be in your blood if you just recently took some calcium foods. Potentially this could also bind the doxy. You can still have it a few hours apart though.
Posted 9/14/2014 10:53 PM (GMT 0)
A splash of almond milk is really going to bind? How much is really too much? That's what I don't get. No calcium at all? Try to stay under a certain % or what?
Posted 9/14/2014 10:57 PM (GMT 0)
Any calcium that you take in during that 2 hours will bind to the Doxy - so no calcium at all during that time. Otherwise you won't get the full dose of Doxy to help fight the infections. Try a non-dairy, creamer that doesn't have calcium added. I've seen coconut based creamers in the grocery stores now.
Posted 9/15/2014 12:41 AM (GMT 0)
What coconut creamer do you use without any calcium? I have looked at many products, rice, coconut, and almond. All will still have some calcium. Even if it's a tiny amount (like 10% or under). Which is why I say this doesn't make sense.

What is everyone eating and drinking for breakfast with out calcium? Even breads have some calcium. Cereals, etc

I'm so confused
Posted 9/15/2014 1:26 AM (GMT 0)
It probably is not that big of a deal if you used a small amount of creamer in your coffee.

But I mean are you really taking your doxy with your coffee??? Lol that is the first I heard of that.

"I'll have some coffee with my doxy." - lol just seems like a strange thing to me to take your antibiotics with. But everyone is different in their habits I suppose.

I quit all caffeine.. It makes my nerves too jittery. Mind you I was drinking energy drinks so maybe that's why. And I feel much much better not having any caffeine now!
Posted 9/15/2014 1:42 AM (GMT 0)
Ha ha! I get up, take doxy with a lot of water, eat a small breakfast (avoiding all butters, cream cheeses, etc) An hour later I drink some espresso with the dash of almond milk on my way to work.

I can tolerate some caffeine. Not nearly what I could before. It actually helps settle my stomach. In a weird way.

Right now I'm on doxy one week, the cyst buster the next week, then doxy, etc. so I can eat all the dairy every other week when I'm on tindamax and not the doxy
Posted 9/15/2014 2:15 AM (GMT 0)
So your doctor has you on a protocol alternating doxy and tinidazole? This is actually the first I have ever heard of such a protocol. Does it seem to be working?
Posted 9/15/2014 2:17 AM (GMT 0)
I think in your case. Having your coffee like an hour later. And taking it in the order you take it... Doxy + water then breakfast, then wait an hour and have some coffee with a small amount of creamer. That's probably not going to affect treatment too much.
Posted 9/15/2014 3:52 PM (GMT 0)
I would suggest that you talk to your doctor about this - a quick phone call to his/her office would answer this for sure - and that way you will know what your doctor wants you to do.
Posted 9/15/2014 4:05 PM (GMT 0)
Re: doxy and tindamax. I've been on this protocol for 3 weeks now and I do feel better than I did on just doxy! I am finding that I have a little more energy. I'm nervous bc I'm afraid it will all take a turn for the worst but I'm trying to stay optimistic. I still have some of the muscle fatgue, joint pain, neuro issues. The fact that I have enough energy to go shopping and want to go to yoga is pretty big for me!

I go back to my doc in a couple months and we will see! She treats clinically and seems so interested in how I'm feeling (better, worse, same, new symptoms, etc.)

Remember that I'm a new diagnosis (as of June) so I'm new to the lyme game and protocols.

I also take probiotics, magnesium and fish oil mid day per her advice.

Posted 9/15/2014 4:51 PM (GMT 0)
And I finally found (online) the coconut creamer that I've been seeing here in the grocery stores:
"So Delicious" Dairy free (with no -as in 0- calcium) coconut milk creamer:
goo.gl/lykHY1

You can click on 'nutrition and allergen info" to see the calcium content.
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