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Posted 11/3/2014 7:06 PM (GMT 0)
I have thrush in my mouth and my very first yeast infection. Despite taking 100 billion probiotics and eating yogurts and inserting boric acid vaginally. It's miserable. I don't know what else I can do..

Besides that my hips wrists and knees are incredibly stiff and achy. I'm hobbling around like a 100 year old woman instead of a 25 year old. I can't sleep through it at night I just can't keep comfortable. The pain pills keep me awake and the creams aren't working.

Maybe I'm having a herx? Or its growth cycle time? I'm red all over and freezing cold even though it's 75 in my house. I'm starting to get a headache and I'm stuffed with snot. The eucalyptus and silver nose spray is helping even though the spray is painful to use. Intense head pain through my forehead everytime. I'm sweating like crazy and my face is covered in oil when it's usually so dry the skin flakes off?!

I don't know if it's bart, but I've been getting crazy pain in my toes that wakes me up around 3 am. It's like a semi truck is parked on them!

I've been detoxing like crazy with lemons and water 4 to 6 cups of tea a day and Epsom salt on my feet. I also use liposomal glutathione. I have 2 supplements for detoxing that I take twice a day as well. I just can't figure out where I'm going wrong. Didn't see this coming.

Please help :(
Posted 11/3/2014 7:24 PM (GMT 0)
Typical yeast infection treatments are prescribed by the doctor, of course. You can also do the doctor-prescribed pill in addition to the off-the-shelf creams (homeopathic creams work too).

Other common yeast treatments are lots and lots of cranberry juice--but NOT the type with sugar added. Find the sour stuff at a healthfood store like Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. Keep doing the yogurt and other probiotics. It's imperative to not eat sugar, as this is what yeast thrives on.

There is a purple tincture for thrush when babies get it, but I can't remember what it's called now that my child is grown. Any doctor should know. It stains the baby's mouth purple painlessly while it kills the yeast.

I'm also taking the Traditional Medicinals daily detox tea and Yogi Tea detox tea (found at almost any grocer). Not sure if these teas are recommended on this forum but I'm enjoying them.

Good luck, please do keep us posted on any improvements!
Posted 11/3/2014 7:29 PM (GMT 0)
I'll definitely get some cranberry juice. I only ate one piece of candy on Halloween lol I've been doing well with staying away from sugar but I could do better.

Gentian violet is what that is called and I used it last time I had thrush in my mouth when I had my son and it made all the skin on the inside of my mouth peel off :( not really wanting to try that again!
Posted 11/3/2014 7:36 PM (GMT 0)
IHL, what self-restraint with the candy! LOL. MUCH better than I did on Halloween!

Thanks for the reminder on Gentian Violet, that is exactly what I was thinking of. Sorry to hear about your reaction to it, yuck and ouch!

I re-read my post and realized the first sentence might've sounded condescending when I wrote "of course". I actually meant that, very likely, you already knew about the doctors' typical treatments. Will re-read my responses before posting next time. ;-)
Posted 11/3/2014 7:38 PM (GMT 0)
I have a lot of luck with the homeopathic medicine called AZO yeast. It is readily available here, not sure about other regions.

The standard herbal cures can help too, like Pau D'Arco, Grapefruit seed extract, and caprylic acid.

Salt (Sea salt) baths can be very soothing.
Posted 11/3/2014 7:42 PM (GMT 0)
Make sure your yogurt has live cultures since many don't. Kefir is a better choice since it has more probiotics in it.

I haven't heard of cranberry juice for yeast, just for bladder infections. That doesn't mean it isn't used that way, though.

I'm sorry you're struggling with so much. I hope you'll find some help soon.
Posted 11/3/2014 7:57 PM (GMT 0)
I'm definitely using good yogurts lol its soooo expensive but we love it.

Maui Hawaii I didn't think that sounded weird lol. No worries :) I actually don't know I've never had a yeast infection before. I thought I might have but after going through this I'm certain this is the first one. Miserable!!!!

I must be having a herx reaction. So disappointing after 3 days of feeling mostly well and being productive. A stark reminder of how sick I actually am....

I've been taking 4 capryllic pills a day for over a month. In the morning and at night I have 21 pills to take and maybe 8 or so midday. Plus all the detox stuff..

Maybe I have that thing that doesn't let me detox? I don't have another appt. Until the 18th :(

Maybe I should call. The only antibiotic I'm on right now is am amoxicillin 1000 twice a day. Is that a lot or.. .?
Posted 11/3/2014 8:29 PM (GMT 0)
I'm taking 1000 mg of ammox three times daily, plus prebenicid (sp?) which is used to keep the levels up in the blood...as ammox has a really short half-life (one hour).

So, 1000 mg twice daily isn't a lot. Maybe at your next appt., the Dr. will add something, or increase your ammox.

I read that some Dr's prescribe 4-6000 of ammox daily.
Posted 11/3/2014 8:46 PM (GMT 0)
I would call the dr IHL - if you are certain it is a yeast infection. My doctor said if I ever I developed a nasty yeast infection I would stop abx for a bit, treat the yeast infection - then go back on treatment. Of course, all drs treat a bit differently but worth a call as yeast can cause joint pain too!
Posted 11/3/2014 8:55 PM (GMT 0)
Good advice Opugirl!
It may be hard to get rid of the yeast infection while taking antibiotics.

I am now taking a couple days off a week from antibiotics...to replenish my gut with probiotics, and detox...etc.
Posted 11/3/2014 9:04 PM (GMT 0)
I would suggest you forgo the yogurt for now and switch to kefir. I don't remember how many strains of beneficial bacteria the store bought kefir has, but the homemade kefir has 23 different strains of beneficial bacteria and 9 strains of healthy yeasts to help balance your intestines back out.
www.culturesforhealth.com/milk-kefir-grains-composition-bacteria-yeast

I was in treatment for 2 years and not once did I deal with Candida while I used the kefir.
Posted 11/3/2014 9:15 PM (GMT 0)
Trav, quick question.

I had been drinking homemade kifer for my morning 'meal', as it was a beefed up with good stuff. THen, the LLMD said I wasn't to take the abx around the kefir.

Is it not good to drink kefir 2 hrs before/after abx?

Thanks
Posted 11/3/2014 9:29 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not sure that it is a yeast infection lol. I Googled it and it sounds about right. With thrush in my mouth I figured it probably was a yeast infection.

Thank you all for the advice. I hate Kefir but I hate this more. Any suggestions on a good brand or how to get it down? Is it easier in a smoothie with something that isn't sugary fruit?
Posted 11/3/2014 9:40 PM (GMT 0)
My brother and I make homemade jun which is supposed to have a ton of probiotics. I haven't been drinking it everyday because of the alcohol content but I think I will now.

I looked up how to make kefir. I think I'm going to order some stuff and try it out. I used to make my own yogurt with my mom and it seems similiar. Now I will have 2 things fermenting on my kitchen counter at all times lol.

One last thought, if it isn't a yeast infection what could it be?!
Posted 11/3/2014 11:20 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, for now: No sugar, no starches, period.

Try S. Boularrdi (Florastor in the drugstore).

Take a probiotic with literally 100 billion in it. 15 million or 5 billion doesn't do it.

Drink goat milk kefir.

Try monistat (otc), and if that doesn't work, make an appointment with your obgyn.

Yogurt doesn't have that many probiotics.

You might also try raw sauerkraut.

Margaret
Posted 11/4/2014 2:24 AM (GMT 0)
I had this happen IHL - this is what I did:

it actually happened when I stopped antibiotics! and you know why - because I wasn't thinking. I stopped Zithromax and stopped my nystatin tabs (antifungal) at the same time (Zithromax remains in your system for at least a week after your last dose). I also ran out of probiotics. Really bad timing. I have had a white tongue from the beginning, and unfortunately have plenty of experience with yeast infections - so if you want to personal message me to be sure, please go ahead!

are you taking antifungals? if not,
what I would suggest is get an Rx for terazol 7 (not the three day, yes, the 7 day). Also get an rx for diflucan 150mg daily for about 5 days. That should clear it up! Then, after the five days of diflucan, get an Rx for nystatin tabs and take 2 tabs twice a day (if your tongue is super white) continuously until you get the yeast under control. I took plenty of probiotics, but still have a candida issue after being on antibiotics for so long. its tough, but it is definitely treatable.
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