Acohol free Houttuynia? Liquid or tablets, worked for bart?

The herbal tea works the best for me. Even one or two little dried leaves helps (otherwise, the herx is too strong).

You can ask Trav. where to get it.

Margaret

We use 3/4 tsp of houttuynia powdered herb (F13180) in infusion (tea) daily:

http://www.1stchineseherbs.com/houttuynia_cordata.html

Heat water to boiling and pour 1/2 cup of water into a small measuring cup or mug. I use a small measuring cup because it's easier to pour from with the spout.

I then add to this the day's worth of powder (3/4 tsp), cover so the volatile compounds don't evaporate, and cool to room temperature. Buhner says that cooling through the range of temperatures helps to extract different compounds which are soluble at different temperatures.

When cool, stir, and before the solids settle measure 1 and 1/4 oz (using a shot glass) into a glass.

To this glass we add the other tinctures we are using, and then drink. We don't sip as tea, but do dose the 1 and 1/4 ozs 3x daily. 8:00 am, 3:00 pm, 9:00 pm.

Don't kid yourself that herbs are not very antimicrobial. They work extremely well for us at low doses, and have caused significant herxing. Probiotics are a must when taking herbs, just as they are when taking antibiotics.

Neither my daughter or myself have been able to make it to dosages recommended by Buhner in either the bartonella or babesia protocols, but 1/4 recommended dosages of the herbs are working well for us, and we are both now asymptomatic.

I would start with a daily dose of 1/4 tsp (divided into 3 as explained above) and continue that for 5 days or so before increasing to 1/2 tsp (divided) for several more days etc. Should herxing begin (for us, higher doses of houttuynia caused palpitations and anxiety attacks (and for our daughter motor ticcing)), skip the rest of the day and maybe the next, and then continue on with the highest dosage that didn't cause a herx.

Julie McIntyre has told me that low doses of Buhner's protocols are as effective as the higher doses (although lower doses may require more time to be effective). The thought being that each herb has multiple constituents, and by taking multiple herbs (and therefore many, many multiple constituents), the bacteria have no recourse. This is fairly independent of concentration.

I infuse herbs first thing in the morning. First dose is right before we head out the door, and may still be a little warm.