Know any awesome adrenal support sites / forums?

If you do (this site does not have adrenal specific) you can e-mail me (click on my name). This forum might not allow-I dont know.

I think we drilled the addrenal thing are far as we can here a few weeks ago.

So I'm seeking more info on lowering my morning adrenal anziety- but part is from flagel ABX i think.

thanks

I should get my thyroid labs back soon too. I might need to lower my "Canadian" Armour thyroid again.

Its all tied together and lyme messes it all up even more as most of us know.

I have the energy to run a marathon in the morning now - I dont need that at all, way too much!! Not normal at all!!

I have had adrenal issues too. My herbal remedies / adaptogens are not working anymore. Thus- seeking more info.

Flagle anxiety does help this much either.

I need my own island, nice thachd roof hut, some good booze, and sun. Since that aint happening soon .......back to plan A.

Astroman, below is a list of adrenal/thyroid symptoms from the Stop this Thyroid Madness book. I hope that it helps you to determine if your symptoms are thyroid/adrenal associated.

Air hunger
All-over body aches
Almost passing out every time you get up
Anxiety
Clumsy (drop things, bump into things)
Coffe needed in the morning to wake up or puts you to sleep
Dark circles under eyes
Dizziness
Easily irritated
Exacerbated reactions to daily stress
Extreme fatigue
Feeling better after 6PM
Feeling dull
Feeling light-headed
Feeling nauseous from movement
Feeling of doom or panic
Feeling paranoid
Flu-like symptoms
Frequent urination
General or localized weakness
Headaches
Heart palpitations
High estrogen levels
Highly defensive
Hypersensitive to supplements
Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar)
IBS symptoms
Impatience, irritability with others
Inability to focus
inability to handle interactions with others
Inflammation that doesn't go away
Irrational fear
Jittery or hyper feeling
Jumpiness or exaggerated startle reflex
Light headedness
Low back pain
Low stomach acid
Mild to severe hypoglycemic episodes
Motion sickness
Muscle weakness
Nausea or feeling hot in the face of stress
Nervousness
No patience
Not coping well with stress
Overreactive
Pain in the adrenal area
Poor absorption of nutrients
Racing or pounding heart
Rage or sudden angry outbursts
Salt craving; Sweet craving
Scalp ache
Shaky hands; internal feeling of shakiness
Shaky or trembling
Sudden extreme hunger
Super-sensitive skin
Sweating
Taking days to recover from a dental visit
Taking days to recover from even minor stress
Trouble sleeping at night
vomiting from running up the slightest incline
Waking up in the middle of the night
Worsening allergies

At first it can be confusing but once you analyze it, it makes more sense. I am sure that you have heard that Lyme is the great imitator. This is because Lyme mimics so many other symptoms. But how can that be? well, Lyme mimics so many different illnesses because the bacteria impacts the areas/organs that cause the these symptoms in similar way that someone who doesn't have Lyme will be impacted.

Lyme loves the brain, including the Hypothalamus and the Pituitary Gland. So when it infects it, you suffer thyroid/adrenal symptoms since they are all interconnected and each depends on the other.

Lyme impacts the heart, both electrically and muscularly. So someone with Lyme will oftentimes suffer the same symptoms that someone with a heart condition would suffer.

Same goes for other organs such as the GI tract and the eyes. So as you can see, the list that includes the endocrine symptoms also parallels Lyme symptoms. If we were to look at cardiac symptoms we would see many of them parallel Lyme symptoms, etc, etc.

That is why doctors have a hard time figuring out what is going on with us Lymies. So much going on at the same time and they with so little training, no wonder they are overwhelmed when a Lymie ends up on their doorstep.

One thing to consider is that many of the medicines and treatments that work to treat the symptoms listed above will also work for us Lymies. We don't have to suffer for months or years until Lyme and Co gets eradicated from our bodies.

One thing that I should add is that some medicines/abx have side effects that cause some of these symptoms, further complicating matters.

Hi Roxie-

There were a couple adrenal threads in the last month. Adrenals and lyme anxiety have similar symptoms. One cannot fully divide the two per symptom, since most are the same.

I even contributed to those threads since I am familiar with it myself and treated with herbal adaptogens - without RX in the past. RX for adrenals is very touchy, unless your full blown Cushings or Addisons.

That said, these symptoms I have are ramping up now approaching beyond my control. I have not found any new information for treating that I was previously unaware of. Drs are terrible in this area- they really just guess at this stuff, trial and error, with more error.

For now I take more herbal stuff than before in the AM- enough to make most fall asleep. I need major "mellowing" in the AM. I no longer get tired, I'm now wired. Its a miracle I sleep. Valarian is by far the best downer I've found thats legal, it lowers BP, pulse ect. I take four at a time. But that is only a band aid.

What are some options non-rx? Someone mentioned isocort, have you used it?