some questions/ my process

whew. Okay so here is what is going on with me right now and some questions.

On the houttuynia journey.

2 days ago was when I felt fine all day, then had that panic attack, then took a valium and was fine.

Yesterday I took lower doses of houtt. and actually had a good day. I ahd some herxing of tight breathing and a speedy rushing feeling, but it was manageable, no valium.

Then last night I actually felt a sense of calm and clearness in my brain that I hadn't felt in a while! It was great and lasted all night. I felt like- wow, this houttiynia is actually getting some of this bartonella out of my brain. ( all my symptoms are in my brain mostly).

then this morning I woke up, felt okay. did one cup of my misty meadows tea ( which I have been on over 2 weeks and stopped herxing from as far as I can tell). then I did a small cup of the houtttuynia.

Then within the next hour I started feeling kind of speedy, rushy. I thought it was a reaction to the houttuynia. But then there was a part of me that started worrying that it may be a reaction to the eleuthro which is in my tea and tonic. Because the other thing is, I never had insomnia thourghout all my lyme and co's. But in the last week- I cant remember too much- I have had more trouble settling my mind to sleep. It is not extreme insomnia, just a little harder to settle my mind into sleep but once I do I sleep the whole night through solidly.

So I was worrying that it may be a reaction to the eleuthro which would be bad as I take a lot of it in my 3 cups of tea and 2 tbspns of tonic.

But then, about an hour after the houttuynia the speedy feeling started to get really intense-- it was similar to the other night where I had the panic attack- in that it came on really quick and intense. It didn't reach full panic exactly- but it was like- it felt hard to breathe, I was super speedy, and I almost felt like I was going to fall over. I got scared and took a valium, and again within 10 minutes the valium subdued the speediness. I think I took the valium early enough in it to keep it form the full panic but it was pretty scary none the less.

I didn't want to take the valium but I get so overwhelmed in the moments of it that I did it out of fear and as a reaction.

Yesterday when I didn't have those intense things happen, I was feeling pretty good. And I was thinking how it feels like the herxes are a good thing because that is the process where the bartonella is actually movng out of me, and then I had that wonderful feling of calmness and clarity last night.
I told my husband last night- I feel great- I feel like I am on valium but I am not! I think this is actually working.

But then today in the moment of the herx- I find myself worrying- is this a herx? or is this just the bartonella acting up because I am off the antibiotics? I think that there is part of me that isn't sure the herbs really work. But then again the herxes are sort of reassuring because it makes sense at this stage of the treatment that I would be herxing, and it is working. And then with the help of the valium it it tolerable. Withuot the valium I don't know how long it would last- it is quite scary before I take the valium.

So all in all I think things are going well. I am still on the low-ish doses of the houttuynia and my scale is supposed to arrive today so I will know for sure.

I am thrilled to be off the antibitoics, an other than the herxes I feel much better off the antibitoics. I just could not take another day of them. So I know I have to give this herbal treatment a good try.

I am still unsure if the eleuthro is good for me or if it makes me feel "rushy" and speedy? I feel like more likely it is the houttuynia getting at the bartonella that is making me rushy and speedy.

In general I am loving my protocol- drinking all this tea, plus I haveadded magnesium and a mineral mix and a multivitamin and nascent iodine and zeolite for some support.

Those of you who have healed your bartonella with houttuynia, does this all seem to be right on course? I don't know if any treatment will work- bt I think this has as good a chance as any. the skeptic in me says- if this really works why doesn't everyone use it and know about it? But then again it is in three of the herbal protocols so that is something.

And I tired following my doctors orders for 8 month with three antibitoics etcetera and while it knocked it back, I relapsed wen I got off. So even following a reputable MD isn't necessarily the answer.

So now I am trying this method and I feel like I just need to keep going and hope for the best.

Again, the weird thing is how well the valium works to mellow out the herx. So right now I am on valium and feeling sleepy and dopey but not anxious. So if the houttuynia is still killing the bartonella and I just have to be on valium for a few weeks, that is totally tolerable.

I still have tons of nerve damage from the antibitoics and just really want to stay off of those. So I hope these herbs work for me. The clarity I felt and calmness I felt last night ( not on valium) was very encouraging.

Post Edited (Katebirch) : 12/23/2014 9:44:14 AM (GMT-7)

I have only added the minerals in the past two days and I don't take them that much-- I think three times so far-- it feels like just support, like a multivitamin.

the main thing is the houttuynia.

Traveler- does this sound like the normal process of a herx?
also do you think the eleuthro is causing the speedy feelings of the houttiynia herxing?
I think most likely the herxng.

But sometimes any changes will bring on a bit of herxing, so do be careful.

Everyone herxes differently - my herxes brought out every single symptom I had with Bart, the same with Lyme herxing. And I have some symptoms that only come to the surface when I herx.

I emailed the misty meadows to ask them if they can make me the tea without the eleuthro. I am pretty sure ( based on past conversations with them) that this will be fine- I may just have to wait two weeks till they are back from the vacation.

This still leaves the tonic with it. So either it will be enough to take it away form the tea and have a little in the tonic or I will have to figure something else out. I do like taking the tea and tonic as the herbalist recommended.

I have noticed the mind speeding a little in the last week or so but I think more so since I started the houttuynia.