Need help with "natural" products

Here I am...again.

I was diagnosed about a year and a half ago. I have a GREAT integrative LLMD and have had my ups and downs. I get symptoms, go to the doc, have treatments, feel better, live life and start all over with symptoms. And so the cycle continues.

This last bought started before my daughters bridal shower. I went to the doc at that point wanting to feel better before the wedding. Treatments helped, but the stress of life and the wedding did a number. I was hoping after the wedding my immune system would kick in on its own, but no such luck.

The wedding was Oct 5th and I'm still battling. I love my doc, but in all honesty, I can't afford to go see her right now. I'd like to try to kick this on my own. I'm somewhat educated, but for the most part I simply trusted what she was doing, because it worked. And....it's difficult to learn this stuff when thinking isn't always an option. LOL!!!

My treatments have never involved pharmaceuticals. I have a list of some of the things I've used with her, but not everything. I know different things work for different people, but I'm hoping some of you that have gone the natural route can give me some pointers.

I've seen a few books out there, but would like opinions on which ones are worth the purchase. Keeping things in my brain is not a luxury I have at this time. hahahaha!!!!!!!!

I'm also really struggling with detoxing this time. I'm doing all the things I know I should be doing(baths, dry brushing, etc) I'm also taking detox protocol from DesBio. I drink quite a bit of water, but it seems the more water I drink the more water I retain. Kinda weird. Can't figure it out.

I know this was sporadic. Hope it made sense a little bit.

Traveler, thanks. It was a lovely, small, intimate wedding. We already had a great relationship, but going through a life event like that has made it even better.

I was sorry to see you are back in treatment as of August. ((hug))

I am actually looking for all three: treatment, detox help, and immune boosting.

For treatment I am currently taking lyme plus, transfer factor LymPlus, Life-O-Zyme Forte, and chlorenergy. (this is pretty much what the doc had me on before).

Detox I am taking Detox Protocol from DesBio, lymph drainage, lymph care, I take epsom salt baths with hydrogen peroxide every day and I do dry brushing. I've done a little bit of "lymph drainage breathing", but it makes my lungs hurt really bad. The little buggers seem to be wanting to have a party in my lungs this time around.

Immune boosting I take a heavy duty probiotic, drink kombucha and kefir, Mega EPA/DHA, Bio-D Mulsion, Max adrenal and Max thyroid, and a multi 5-in-1. We also have a whole foods diet. (though I have to admit the sugar has been a bit more the past week. hahaha ) I am thinking about doing some juicing to get more nutrients in at one sitting.

I am pretty much doing what I have done before with the exception of "in office" treatments, which were a pulsar machine and a foot bath. I have been on this protocol for 2 weeks now and not noticing much of a difference. I don't know if I'm missing something or if it's just so different not having the in office treatments.

Some of the symptoms this time are also different than what I have dealt with before. Which I'm assuming is not uncommon. I can also tell my lymphatic system is really struggling. I'm not sure what else to to do help it.

Saving the world is not a bad thing.

Seriously what are the odds of that? It must be pretty small. I am assuming you caught it pretty quickly, being so aware of symptoms.

I don't feel like it's babesia, and I'm really not sure the symptoms of other co-infections.

I didn't stop to think oil pulling would help with detoxing. Not sure why that never crossed my mind. I will add that back into my regimen. Thanks. I was just reading about activated charcoal, planning to pick some of that up.

I guess I need to look at some things for specifically building up the immune system. I haven't had blood work done in about a year. Numbers were low then but just below "acceptable", except Vit D, that was in a good range.

Inflammation is bad. At least I'm guessing that is what most of the pain is from. I just got some Inflamma ND, which is what I was on before. Hopefully that will help. Symptoms are the same, yet different. Example: I struggle with neuropathy, but this time instead of a burn all the time, it's sometimes piercing cold. I have the air hunger, blurry vision, ringing in the ears(that's new). The middle of my back is BAAAAAD!!!!!! Very tight and extremely painful. My lungs burn and sometimes feel like they are filled with cement (that's the only way I can explain it). I do cough up little bit of "stuff", sometimes. Headaches come and go. Muscle pain is achy and stabbing, but not constant.

One weird thing is how sore I am in the morning when I wake up. It feels like someone has beat me up during the night. I ache everywhere, especially the bottom of my feet. It subsides after I move around a bit but I kinda carry it with me all day.

Hahaha.......and I can't forget the brain lapses.

And, of course, I'm exhausted. I wake up a lot at night, usually from pain and have to try to find a comfortable position to get back to sleep. When I wake up in the morning I feel exactly the same as when I went to bed. I know that's not a good thing.

A big thing that I know doesn't help is my stress level. I'm pretty much always stressed and push myself past what I should be doing a good majority of the time. Partially because things have to be done, but mostly because I don't want others to know how I really feel, or think I'm just being a whiner baby. So I put on my happy face and go about my day, trying to fake it to the best of my ability. Which I am pretty good at. LOL!!!


Are you, or anyone here, familiar with Recipes for Repair? Or The Lyme Diet? We eat really well, but I wonder if I a missing something when it comes to food as part of the healing process.

Thanks for all your thoughts and love.

I looked at the extensive chart and I'm now thinking babesia is definitely going on. I had forgot to mention I'm hardly ever hungry, and nausea is a regular part of my day. Those were both listed with babesia as well as the lung thing. Might make sense why I don't feel like I'm going in the right direction.


I know my doc would test adrenals if I asked her. I found this doc through a friend who had sever adrenal fatigue. She started seeing this doc probably being super close to Addison's. I' so sorry to hear you have that struggle. I've only seen what she has gone through and it's really difficult to imagine struggle with lyme and adrenal failure.

I am still curious about the sites though. My friend mentioned having it tested by finding a test on line too, if I didn't feel like going through the doc.