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Posted 2/11/2015 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
Who has had noticeable success with artemisinin? Preferred co, dosage, etc? Thx, jo
Posted 2/11/2015 6:12 PM (GMT 0)
I was just about to post the same question! That is used for babesia, correct? I hope someone answers!
Posted 2/11/2015 6:39 PM (GMT 0)
I found this one, but looks like only doctors can order???

http://www.allergyresearchgroup.com/Artemisinin-90-Caps-p-23.html
Posted 2/11/2015 7:30 PM (GMT 0)
Well, if it's used for malaria, it may be effective for babs.
Some effective pharmaceutical treatments for abs are mepron, and malarone -which are antimalarial meds.
Posted 2/11/2015 7:37 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, it is used for babesia.
Posted 2/11/2015 7:53 PM (GMT 0)
I use AlleryResearchGroup artemisinin. You can order it on amazon. Ask your Dr. about dosage and be ready to herx:)
Posted 2/11/2015 8:10 PM (GMT 0)
My LLMD sells herbals from Germany. She is mailing me one that contains this artemisinin, but also has other stuff in it. It's very expensive so I was looking for a cheaper alternative. I think I will try the one Pictureofhealth recommends after I try the one from Germany.

My LLMD wants me to use it along with mepron and Zithromax to treat babesia, not malaria. Apparently you can use the same drug or supplement to treat more than one disease/infection. Imagine that! Lol.

I'll be sure to report back in case anyone is interested.

Thank you, POH, for the suggestion!
Posted 2/12/2015 12:52 PM (GMT 0)
I pulsed Artemisinin for Babesia twice. Each time was 500 mg twice daily for 10 days. No more. You can search my discussion with Lynn1980. We both did around the same time. It worked very well for me but the herxes were tough. Prior warning it's like a dropping a nuke. I would do it again though if I had too. My LLMD said Artemisinin technically goes after iron rich cells ( see gov't studies agree ) which Babesia would fall in this category. I think Bartonella could also though too remember. It is also very commonly used for Malaria which is Babesia's third cousin.

Never heard ILADS mentioned Clindamycin for Babs. Malarone is common to use but you can't combine it with much so you have to generally be going after Babs only. See Dr. B's published stuff. Plus Malarone is expensive. Couple people on here used it. I couldn't cause I was on other antibiotics for co-infections that shouldn't be taken at same time as Malarone.

Burhner's Protocol I think he likes sida acuta now the most? I can't remember. You can check his site. He said not that Artemisinin doesn't work for Babesia just sida acuta is preferred.

JM
Posted 2/13/2015 1:25 AM (GMT 0)
I was suppose to have Fry test back already!!! Oh well. Waiting. I am checking for the mysterious FL1953 among others so I am real interested.

I did get a C3a C4a test back and my C4a is 9 times normal. Definitely still ill even after long term antibiotics shakehead
Posted 2/13/2015 4:28 AM (GMT 0)
@Jackie Moon - did the 2 pulses of artemesinin of 10 days each get rid of your babesia? I wasn't sure if you meant that by 'no more' or just that you aren't currently using artemesinin anymore but using something else. Do you know which type of Babesia you had/have (microti, duncani)?

Thanks!!!
Posted 2/13/2015 7:05 AM (GMT 0)
@SLML

Sorry about the confusion! Here is what I meant by "no more" ... Two LLMD's school of thought:

1. Pulse methods ( just like antibiotics ). Higher doses for short periods of time. Then stop completely. No more.

or

2. Lower doses for long period of time.

Some research says Babs gets resistant to Art. using #2 method over time. I don't know. My LLMD didn't say yes or no. He just likes #1 method when using Art.

I don't have Babs symptoms anymore. It's amazing. Night and day different. I was really ill. Like mono. As you know their is no slow "creeping" of symptoms with Babs. It's like a hammer. It's very easy to tell if it is in remission.

My LLMD pulsed Art. a 3rd time just to see if Babs was around and I didn't herx at all.

I don't know that 2 pulses is a "standard recommendation." It is just my personal experience. I think you continue to pulse till you don't herx. Like I said for me that was simple to tell. So I stopped.

I never got a Babs type of microti or duncani. I am officially testing for Babs again but I don't have the results yet.

As typical with most Lymies, I keep peeling back layers and finding more infections to deal with but I am not dealing with Babs symptoms anymore which has me out of my bed at least.

@SLML you took a lot of same meds I took for Babs and co-infections. Babs is still an issue?
Did you test for Protomyxzoa rheumatica? Very similar symptoms to babs. Just a thought.

Sorry to hear you are dealing with these. Hopefully the forum can give you support.

JM

Post Edited (Jackie Moon) : 2/13/2015 12:20:07 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/18/2015 12:50 AM (GMT 0)
Just got Fry test back. No FL1953 for me.

Good and bad I guess. I am still trying to pinpoint what remains an issue after lengthy antibiotic treatment.

With a very high c4a my LLMD wants to continue treatment til it lowers some.
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