Yeast problem

Will yeast problem resolve increasing probiotics?

My son had LLMD yesterday, and he was now diagnosed with yeast problem ( I didn't realize I was supposed to give him 4 pills of 15-20 billion parts, I was giving him 1 the past 6 weeks.) Hope I did not get to the point that it's bad. LLMD seemed to think it will resolve as I go back to 60, 80 or 100 billion parts. Just wondered what you all think.

Also, his co infections were all negative this summer, but yesterday LLMD checked his back and guess what, Bart appeared . Going on Rocephin.

Thought we were doing better than all this, but he plateaued since Dec., kinda coincides with when I gave him less probiotic, but not sure how much that matters.

Bart explains his messed up sleep though I guess.

Just really, really sad. Thought I was taking good care of him....

Dr. S said he'll be ok to just increase the probiotic. I'm guessing it's more thrush than Candida at this point? Not bothering his intestines or really causing him any discomfort. I was going to stop the antibiotic for a couple of days, or a few, but hubby said, did the dr. say to do that? no. Then don't! Hubby and I checked his mouth too so we could have a starting point. Does not look bad at all. No lumps or bumps or thick coating.

I had him on 100 billion parts until 6 weeks ago. Then got the usual 15-20 billion, but only gave him 1 a day - did not realize I was supposed to be giving him 4 a day. You know what? It was thanks to this blog that I asked! Simela and I are emailing and she mentioned upping the probiotic, not sure I even told her the level he is on, but something told me to write it down and ask about it this week and thanks to her and some spirit that kicked my butt to ask, he's back on the 100 billion! Actually, for the next few days, I'm giving him 3 of the 15-20 billion after first doxy dose, then late at night, a few hours after second doxy and Rocephin, I'm giving him the 100 billion. Just for about 4 days until the original bottle runs out.

Thanks Simela!

Thanks Trav. You always ,know how to pick me up. Do you know how long on doxy and rocephin it takes to start to feel better? He made so much progress over the 7 months on doxy, then plateaued. Wondered now after adding rocephin and correcting the yeast, how many months we are looking at for more progress. At least he's already heavy detoxing already, that may help.

I can't believe all you have been through - I'm glad God is keeping you around ! You are a blessing to all of us!

PS my other son came home last night from college with lots of abdomen pain. As always I'm panicked he has lyme stuff as they undertreated him and he had the rash. Seems to have resolved today, probably not lyme, just gas maybe, but I'll feel so much better when I finally get him on that ADP protocol. I want to wait for spring break in case he does react in any way to the protocol...

Thank you ! ei

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Thank you Chapelle!

I read Caprylic Acid could help and not destroy the good bacteria also like Oil of Oregano., be careful with that.

He was doing fine on 100 billion parts probiotic, but then I was using 15-20 billion, not aware he needed 4 pills at a time, not one! Did that for 6 weeks -- ugh.

His diet is good. I have him very limited and he's home pretty much all of the time on the computer in the dining room or in bed. No longer searching for sugar like he used to, so all he eats is what I bring him. Veggies, meat, fish, nuts, fruit, and in the morning, oats and bran to help with the doxy first dose, need something with a little consistency or it bugs his stomach.

He has some white on the back of this tounge, no bumps, no thick white, nothing in throat, so it's not bad yet. Dr. seemed to think return to strong probiotic will take care of it. I really hope so.

We don't go back for 6 weeks. Not sure if I should try the Caprylic Acid on my own. I don't like to diagnose and treat myself.

Hope you are feeling well - you have had a long road.

Exhausting! Must be especially hard with lyme for you. I was wiped and I was healthy! Hang in, there are many rewards too :)

Thanks for the tip. I'll look for it.

my son had yeast issues last spring and early summer. He did fluconazole for a month and it really helped.

But then also, this fall and winter I've suspected yeast had caused some motor ticcing, so I changed his diet to follow Dr. Bruce S.'s advice in his book, "An Extraordinary Power To Heal".
He gives a 4 stage diet to follow. I do stage 2 with my son (actually a combo of stage 1 and 2). big things he mentions are:

no vinegar, no malt (maltodextrin; in so much stuff), no msg, no vanilla, no chocolate, no apples, bananas, mushrooms or grapes, no aged cheese.

(he said grapes can "wreak havoc on children with yeast issues")

and I give my son about 3 teaspoons of unrefined virgin coconut oil a day. I second what opugirl said about it making a difference and helping…I think it's made a big difference for my son.

oh, and kefir.

I know ticcing can be infection based too, but it's stopped 99.9% with these changes. I suspect the yeast was contributing to it and that the changes helped. oh and detoxing and taking chlorella each day.

and like others have said, you are taking good care of him!

Post Edited (stacestar) : 2/16/2015 10:46:33 PM (GMT-7)

I researched the diet, www.autismweb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=121287 , but the problem with it is that he is supposed to be sugar, carbs and yeast free - so no rice, pasta, bread, crackers, etc., those are huge in carbs. Many, many gluten free things are huge in carbs as well.

So then with this I cut out meat, chicken (we live on that), fruit, etc.

It is SO HARD to know what to do!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was doing all of that, but then I see no beans, no pistachios, cashews, peanuts, he was loving those as a dessert - will switch back to almonds and some pecans and walnuts, but he's not going to be happy. Was having tons of veggies, now I see carrots should not be cooked. Also, gave him deli meat and cheeses - none of that - if he ever gets to school, I was giving him a whole wheat wrap - he's not big on salad. Also, now no mayo ( I used low fat and fresh chicken for chx. salad on the wrap at times), no ketchup, mustard, soy, worcestershire sauce. etc. OY! No carrots or peas in the chicken soup anymore, no apples, ripe bananas.. . and on and on it goes. Just more studying and prep work...

Oh my. I was going with as much lyme healthy stuff as I could, but candida healthy stuff seems yet different again!

Thanks for the good word and encouragement Trav.!

Nigella Sativa seeds have terpenoids that kill yeasts and candida. The seeds are very pungent and it may be difficult to get a child to eat them, but a tablespoonful every day for a few days gives significant results for me. They taste like oregano.

I don't know if anyone has suggested this since I didn't read the whole post. Pau d'arco tea is used for candida detox. You can look it up online. Cheap and available at health food stores. Mine says the water should be warmed in a glass or ceramic pot not metal and it should be simmered not boiled. It was suggested I do this 1-3 times a day. If your kid isn't already taking the probiotic saccharomyces bouldardii I would add that as well. It is a special probiotic that survives through the stomach and goes to the intestines. It is fairly cheap compared to other probiotics and also at any health food store. It is very good for preventing c diff. I was told it is very important for anyone taking antibiotics to take. 5 to 10 billion a day. Also I know the prescription drug diflucan is for yeast. I'm not sure if it is okay for children, that would be something for the doc to answer. I have taken it recently and has helped with yeast problems. First I took 100 mg pills once a day for 10 days and then I take a 150 mg pill whenever I feel like the yeast is coming back.

Post Edited (Green33) : 2/22/2015 9:27:31 AM (GMT-7)

Thank you LMCmom for this post. You are learning as you go I'm
treating my own candida issues these past 2-3 wks. It's most
challenging. I've dealt with it for ten years off and on. So, I relate
to your frustration with your son. The diet part. I just tell myself, today's
a new day and I will pick up where I left off. Easier said than done at times.
You've gotten good advice.
Will just add a couple of things here. I use a tongue scrapper in the
morning. That takes the white coating off my tongue. I can get an
idea of how things are going. Don't know if he'd wish to do this or not.
They sell them in health food stores.
Also, tomatoes don't sound 'good'. They're in the night shades
family and yes mushrooms are supposed to be good but not when it
comes to candida. I have granny smith apples which I read on one
site were 'ok'. But some diets say no fruit for the first couple of weeks
I have green smoothies in the morning and that helps break
things up. Lettuce, parsley, cukes, coconut water, finely ground
flax seeds, some green protein powder. Sometimes I add an
avocado but not sure if that's allowed either. I also add the
granny smith apples. Actually, I use the Nutra Bullet.
All I'm having is chicken, fish, steamed veggies and
salads. Plus, my candida supplements and probiotics.
Hope some of this may be of help. You are taking good
care of him. Good wishes .

LM: I am just catching up on your post now.

Did u start the new antibiotic? I am so glad that mentally he is better because he will become your partner in his healing process. My son is back on abx for a ear infection. He was in a lot of pain and woke up screaming at 1:30 am on Saturday. PCP gave him cefdinir. Also I had the most horrible week. Since the doctors are not backing him up, I am given choises: get him him to school on time or go to court! So I am pulling him out of school voluntarily and register him for on line public school instead. Even though his absenses are excused by dr. Visits or ER visits or hospitalization, PA state requires a doctor to back him up for anything over 13 absenses! I really feel right now that the whole world is treating us with cruelty just because my son is sick :(. So at least you are lucky to not have to deal with this. Nightmare!

The diagnostic center appointment is on April 17. The LLMD appointment is on march 9th. So they won't come on time to save us from dropping out of his brick and mortar school. He has to either make it to school on time every day OR we will be called in court in front of a judge. Only because no dr believes how sick my son truly is--they think is a psychological issue and he tries to get out of school. I don't share their opinion. His scores just came in and he is still an honor student.