Daughter is complaining she feels ants crawling under skin

Hi Simela, I just made a minor change (one letter) in your post to make it more understandable.

So sorry to hear your daughter is dealing with this!

"Buggy" feelings were one of the first symptoms I developed after starting treatment for Lyme. There were times it was difficult to fall asleep because of them.

I also dealt with numbness in my left leg and or my left hand...and or sometimes both hands.

Thankfully, I haven't had these symptoms in a long while.

I second the idea of the Cowden protocol. Amazon sells the products at lower prices than Nutrimedix.

Hey Simela - that's Lyme attacking her nerves. I used to make my legs bloody when that started - and usually at night when I didn't even realize I was doing it! When it feels like you literally have bugs under your skin, it can itch so bad that it literally hurts.

Do you have some kind of nervous system cleanse? If not, increase any toxin binders that she's taking - but carefully of course.

You have her started on some kind of treatment though, don't you?

If you feel comfortable using Buhner's with her, then what have you got to loose? Most of your family is infected, right? If she doesn't have Lyme, I really don't believe it will hurt her in any way.

A herx is the increase in the severity of any existing symptoms or new symptoms show up - and that's the time to increase what is being done for detoxing - or you can increase the amount of detoxing sooner.

Just go slow - start off with just one drop. If it takes a bit to find the right dose, it doesn't matter nearly as much as it does to avoid a bad herx, especially in a child I would think.

Remember, herxing is a sign that the body isn't getting rid of the toxins as fast as they are being made. If herxing is kept at low levels for a few weeks, it's okay as the toxins are being cleared, just slowly. If there is a large increase in the severity of the symptoms, then it's time to back down or stop the treatments to give the body time to detox.

Be sure that you find out at what level her symptoms - all of them if you can. If she can tell you by numbers like we say (1 through 10), otherwise find other ways of her being able to relate to you how bad each symptom is by comparison to other things she may have experienced.

Thanks, achivinggrace, I have thought of that :)

Trav:
"A herx is the increase in the severity of any existing symptoms or new symptoms show up - and that's the time to increase what is being done for detoxing - or you can increase the amount of detoxing sooner."

I gave her some echinacea tea. Definitely something is going on with her, I was 99% sure before but 100% sure now. She kept saying she feels aunts crawling up her back and she was itchy because of it; she was complaining more than usual about it. I treated like is no big deal because I didn't want to scare her and told her I will ask the doctor. Also, she can't do baths for as long--she gets really nauseous and she wants to come out, whereas before, baths really helped her. Her legs started to get weak. One day she had to hold my arm when we came from school. Both of her legs were very weak the next day, but one of her legs was much weaker than the other and she was having problems walking.

I don't think the tea was too strong--we all drank it--even my younger daughter and she was ok. I drank 2 cups, since my body weight is higher than her, and it didn't do anything for me.

What else can I use for detox in a young child besides the baths? Today she didn't even drink that much tea because she was fooling around with her younger brother and he spilled it. Still, she could not stay very long in the bath with epsom salt. She came out pretty quickly. Luckly my little girl (5 yrs old) drinks the tea--because I told her it's called good health children tea :) and with that and the propolis and the baths, the 5 yr old is almost pain free. Her tummy is ok for the most part too, she doesn't need as many probiotics.

Today I retested the 5 yr old and the 10 yrs old for lyme and co-infections. After this, I told the pediatrician I won't bother him anymore because I wrote him a pretty obnoxious letter and I think by now neither of us like the other very much. I didn't even tell him about my 9 yr old because he already thinks the other 2 are making it up :(

So what else is safe for children so small to detox besides water and lemon, baths and horsetail tea? I use cilantro or oregano almost every day in cooking

Thanks so much Trav!

I have a list of a few more products that I intended to get for a few days and I added the activated charcoal. Time has been not on my side, and I keep delaying this, with all the crazy stuff that happened with my son.

Yes, I do believe something is going on, it seems that the winter season is just making her feel it more. Last night after she went to bed she came to tell me she feels something is biting her on the back, on the left side of her nose, in her hand and one of her legs.

She never stated this before. I only give her a cup of echinacea tea! Most of us here, drink more without these new symptoms. She doesn't know what a herx is and she doesn't know what the tea is for--I just say is either good night children's tea or good health tea, to convince them to drink it.

So, I can't even give her anything else at this point because it may make her feel worse! The 5 year old does not have a herx from it and neither the rest of us.

I was also looking at Pinella, but there are reports that anise seed (which I believe is included in this tincture) has high levels of estrogen and with her being growing, I don't think that is safe. Also, some toxicity has been reported of the seed in high doses that was used to treat different things, so I am on the watch out for this one, unless it would be prescribed by a doctor.

Thanks again, Trav! I'll try the charcoal. This is hard because she doesn't get home until about 4 PM. Did you use the product and if so, can you post a link where you get it or which brand? How do you take it? Empty stomach? In the morning? One time per day? Between meals?

I can almost guarantee she has Lyme. My son, who has Lyme, has the same exact symptoms. His first complaint was ants crawling on his hands and feet. Then, it was numb toes. He has woken up a couple of times literally screaming about a joint pain. He is positive for LYME. He got so bad, he could barely recognize his alphabet.

I am so sorry you are dealing with all this. It's not easy. My older child has Lyme also. I gave it to both of them unknowingly.

Just know there is hope. He has not started ABX yet and almost all of his symptoms are already gone. And, he's reading ABOVE grade level now. He's 8 and he started a natural treatment last summer.

They will all be fine. We just have to fight for them. Blessings!

Ok, I changed my mind about the Pinella. This is an amazing article--I'll have to re-read it in the morning, the anise plant and anise seed are amazing! Even NIH says so! This thing is good for virtually everything!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3405664/

I have some anise seed, that I am extracting both in powder form and as a whole seed. Many articles on this plant and seed on NIH. I want to make the essential oil too, but we haven't had much sun. Buhner is doing it in the stove--maybe I'll try that one of these days! Amazing plant, all around and excellent article on it!

Trav, what do you think about this activated charcoal? Do you think is ok? Thanks again :)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0026XWKKM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Post Edited (Simela1) : 3/1/2015 1:26:39 AM (GMT-7)

hi,

My kids are seeing a Dr. in Maryland. She ordered them cat's claw, lymph detox, a sleep aid, and a bunch of fortifiers for the gut. I personally give them burbur and pinella (Cowden). It's terrific together.

The diet is extremely important for little ones. I do not allow them to have any juices or soda. None. We juice at home and I want to make a probiotic version of ginger ale.

As per the Dr. no gluten or dairy. This is difficult sometimes for them.

Oh, and I give them mineral drops with their water. They don't like the taste but I think it makes a difference.

I wish you all the best. You all will be fine.

LOL! I was only kidding about buying the 12 lb bag. that would be a massive amount considering it's charcoal so it's very lightweight!

Although you didn't ask this of me, you can use red root for your kids for their lymphs. If you are going to use the chronic tonic for them, you can always just increase the amount you put in the chronic tonic, or make a tincture of it to add to each individual child since you will already be ordering it. Just a thought.

These are the first two places I've come up with - I know I've read it in other places as well though. You will have to use your own best judgement on how long is 'long enough' though, as there are no guarantees unfortuately.

www.rain-tree.com/prepmethod.htm#.VPTKlywcSic
about 3/4ths of the way down the page you will see:
"Shake the bottle/jar at least once daily while allowing it to soak/extract for at least two weeks (larger woody cut herb pieces may need to soak for 4 weeks). At the end of two weeks, filter the tincture through a strainer to remove the plant parts...."


And here:
bearmedicineherbals.com/an-introduction-to-tinctures.html
"7) Store in cool, dark place for two to six weeks. I have variously decanted an herb at three weeks and once, two years later. Both tinctures worked well"