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Posted 3/18/2015 12:03 AM (GMT 0)
Sorry for all the posts today everyone, I guess I'm having a freak out day. I am still questioning whether or not I have Lyme and Bart even though my IGeneX test is a strong positive for Bart but shows negative for both CDC and NYC Western Blot for Lyme Bb. Here is the link to my original post with my results:

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3318109

I have been doing a lot of research as to how Bart is transmitted. One of my posts earlier asked whether Bart could be transmitted to humans without a tick bite (i.e. fleas, mosquitos, etc). Is this possible, or is Bart ONLY transmitted through ticks? Additionally, there is evidence of Bart infecting individuals with HIV. I have been tested for HIV twice last year and both came back negative. But I have had unprotected sex in the past (sorry TMI), so naturally I am freaking out that I possibly have HIV and that is why I have Bart, even though I tested negative for HIV.

Are most cases of Bart from a tick bite? Also, is there strong evidence from my IGeneX test to indicate Lyme? Again, sorry for the neurotic post, I'm just having a really anxious day.
Posted 3/18/2015 12:34 AM (GMT 0)
No there is no way HIV can be infectious via a bacteria vector. hIV IS a human only disease, it can only infect HUMAN cd4 cells, if it tries to infect mosquitoes or any other organism, the host organism will degrade hiv, besides hiv have evolved to only infect humans.. HIV takes a month to-2 years for the antibodies to show up. if you had infected you would developed a really bad cold(flu like symptoms). it takes years for oppurtunistic infections to show up for HIV. Most bart infections come from mamals, cats are the most common(cat scratch fever). this is if you meant bartonella.
HIV can be spread through, dirty needles, blood transfusion, open sores in the mouth with bleeding,seminal fluid, vaginal fluid. blood sprays.
If you are positive for lyme through igenex, why isnt antibiotics prescribed to you, to see if it works?
Posted 3/18/2015 1:04 AM (GMT 0)

zasz said...
No there is no way HIV can be infectious via a bacteria vector. hIV IS a human only disease, it can only infect HUMAN cd4 cells, if it tries to infect mosquitoes or any other organism, the host organism will degrade hiv, besides hiv have evolved to only infect humans.. HIV takes a month to-2 years for the antibodies to show up. if you had infected you would developed a really bad cold(flu like symptoms). it takes years for oppurtunistic infections to show up for HIV. Most bart infections come from mamals, cats are the most common(cat scratch fever). this is if you meant bartonella.
HIV can be spread through, dirty needles, blood transfusion, open sores in the mouth with bleeding,seminal fluid, vaginal fluid. blood sprays.
If you are positive for lyme through igenex, why isnt antibiotics prescribed to you, to see if it works?

Zasz- it seems like a lot of people on this site have Bart; does that imply that they all got it from a cat scratch? I have Bartonella Henselae, according to my IGeneX results. Both CDC/NY State Western Blot showed up negative but my LLMD seems to think they misdiagnosed me and I am positive for Lyme. I am on antibiotics now. I am just wondering if I really do not have Lyme and have something else like HIV instead. I know this may be far-fetched and my neurosis is playing a part here. Isn't Bart an opportunistic infection? So if you do not have Lyme, could you have some other infection and be infected with Bart?
Posted 3/18/2015 11:24 AM (GMT 0)
Lyme and company can be carried by different ticks, mosquitos, fleas, so it's hard to say.

I grew up with cats, and always played rough with them and got scratched so maybe I've had Bart forever before even getting Lyme. I haven't tested for any co-infections but have quite a few symptoms.

Lyme and company can make you really sick and make you think you have something worse but not sure what could be worse, of course HIV but since you tested negative several times, I wouldn't worry about it so much and focus on healing the Lyme and Bart.

Good luck with your protocol, sounds like your in good hands and keep us posted.
Posted 3/18/2015 3:13 PM (GMT 0)
Dave, even though your tests were rated as "negative" you have Lyme specific bands that are IND and positive. That is enough.
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