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Posted 5/6/2015 1:42 PM (GMT 0)
Good Morning All!

I just had a question for all of you experts. Myself and my LLND are still awaiting Igenex testing to come back, however; there is thought that I may have Bart as well. Over the past couple of weeks I have noticed my temperature a few degrees cooler than normal except now I have started to have hot flashes occassionally that bring my body temperature up to normal.

My understanding is that in order to help treat Lyme you are supposed to try and bring your body temperature up which I have been trying to do. By doing this am I allowing Bart to set in deeper? I read that Bart likes the heat and therefore I worry that by bringing my body temperature up too much while actually make the Bart worse.

Is my thinking logical?

Thank you
Posted 5/6/2015 1:48 PM (GMT 0)
I had lyme and Bart and my Dr did not focus on my body Temp at all, just the symptoms, and I did ok. Have you began treatment yet?
Posted 5/6/2015 2:16 PM (GMT 0)
No not yet, my ND wants to wait for results to come back. I am currently on tumeric, probiotic, crypto and Glutothione to prepare my body for Anti-biotics. I am just trying to get a head of this thing as all signs are pointing to Lyme and or Co-infection(due to rash I had last summer).
Posted 5/6/2015 2:36 PM (GMT 0)
I never heard barto likes heat. I don't think any bacteria likes heat. Where did you get this idea from?

You could certainly detox a lot more if you want to prep for abx--this is my suggestion.
Posted 5/6/2015 2:58 PM (GMT 0)
I read it on another site but have heard conflicting information, so I wanted to clarify. My detox regime has been daily epsom salt / Peroxide baths and drinking a lot of Lemon water. What else can I be doing for detox at this point in time?
Posted 5/6/2015 3:07 PM (GMT 0)
Honestly, there isn't any bacteria that likes a lot of heat - although it takes a lot of heat to kill them.

But, by raising your body temp back up, it will allow your body to operate a lot better, which means it will have a bit more power to fight these infections.

These are such complex infections that we really need to give our bodies every opportunity to function at high levels to help aid in the fight!! A well functioning body will really help a lot!

We have a list of detox suggestions in the "New to Lyme?" thread, but here are a few more suggestions to help get you started:
Dry skin brushing
FIR saunas
coffee enemas
Taking binders, such as activated charcoal, zeolite and others
oil pulling

And watch your diet - no sugar, lowered carb intake, and very, very little processed foods. Remember that if it doesn't help your body heal, it will have to be detoxed out, so less toxins going into your body means less will have to be detoxed out.
Posted 5/6/2015 4:53 PM (GMT 0)
Bartonella caused hot flashes for both my daughter and myself. For our daughter they resolved with bartonella abx treatment, and for me they resolved with bartonella herbs. We have a near-ir sauna that we use frequently, and it hasn't caused any type of relapse that I can see.

I know when you are sick with these infections, heat can cause you to feel worse, but I don't think that means the bacteria are proliferating, I think that means they are dying off.
Posted 5/6/2015 5:09 PM (GMT 0)
I think you have gotten great advice from everyone.

I agree with Rowing Mom. I dealt with the heat last week. I felt terrible from die off. As soon as it returned to a normal temp, I returned to my base line discomfort. I was herxing like crazy.

I used get hot flashes from Bartonella. They are getting less frequent lately as I continue to treat. I used to burn up with any slight activity. As everyone said, focus on detox and treatment. The temperature and hot flash issues will get better with treatment.
Posted 5/6/2015 9:25 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you all for the advice, I may have access to a regular Dry Sauna but not so much to a FIR Sauna. I understand that the FIR Sauna may be ideal, but will a dry sauna work as well?
Posted 5/6/2015 10:17 PM (GMT 0)
While a FIR sauna is the ideal, sweating of any kind is helpful. Just be sure to really start off slow!! It has the potential to make you herx.
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