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Posted 7/12/2015 3:13 AM (GMT 0)
I used to get a distinctive headache whenever I was taking something strong, like Oil of Oregano.

Then, I started getting it with the hooch, but it would come and go, although it was getting more and more persistent.

Then, I had to go on high doses of Olive Leaf Extract and some other things to get rid of bronchitis and a sinus infection. So the headache got worse.

Now, it won't go away.

It's that "Lyme headache" I've heard others describe. Pain in the forehead, sinus area, top of head, and back of head and skull.

I don't know what to do. Advil and Aleve help some, but I know you're not supposed to take them every day. Muscle relaxants don't help, plus they make my brain fog worse.

I can't take any opiate derivatives, bc they mess up my sleep, and make me fall during the night.

I'm taking a few days off antimicrobials to see if it helps, but so far, it hasn't helped, so I'm thinking maybe it isn't a herx after all?

I don't know what to do!

Margaret
Posted 7/12/2015 3:38 AM (GMT 0)
Ok. Hm. I'm stumped. I read what you wrote on the other post where we were talking about headaches.

I think taking any sort of pain pill whether it's advil or narcotic isn't good. It's just one of those things though. You have to make the decision that's right for you.

When my headache wasn't so bad I never took pills. I feel like a jerk because I used to assume anyone that took pain pills was either weak or an addict. Boy has my perspective changed!

I've heard that rubbing peppermint essential oil on your temples can provide relief. And caffeine can help but you probably don't want to do that at night. Hm. What else..... lymph massage can help in overall severity over a long period of time.

Also staying upright and not laying all the way down. Mine gets worse when I lay down.
Posted 7/12/2015 4:17 PM (GMT 0)
It's likely due to ammonia in the brain, but I'm not sure what you can take, Margaret, as you have sensitivities. Ammonia in the brain is created by die off of these bacteria due to the meds you took.

1/2 tsp of powdered yucca daily is supposed to help really well with ammonia in the brain, so is Dr. Jernigan's Neuro antitox PNS/CNS. I don't remember if there are other things that will work for this or not though, and I definitely don't know if you can tolerate those things.
Posted 7/12/2015 5:46 PM (GMT 0)
HI T. Your subject title in your topic caught my eye as it sounds like what I have been experiencing since May. I so can relate - it flat out sucks. Today is a particularly bad day. I woke up at 3 a.m. and could not fall asleep after that - every time I tried to nod off, I would get this strange wave -like sensation going through my head that would kind of lightly jolt me awake. All that just increased my anxiety and voila another headache today along with with strange sensation at the back, sides and top of my skull- a cross between a tingling, grabbing sensation - so hard to describe. Because I can't handle OTC head pain medication, I was encouraged to try taking Magnesium at the onset of a headache and another at bedtime. I took one this a.m., but it still is bad - feel nauseous. I hope your evening will be better, T. Hang in There.
Posted 7/12/2015 6:38 PM (GMT 0)
Wow. Today I have a migraine on top of the chronic headache. I feel like I'm wigging out.

I think those are good suggestions, esp. the ammonia thing, but the others too, and IHL, if you don't mind, I might become your headache buddy. I said your little prayer last night while I was doing the heads up the wall yoga pose (which helps me sleep).

Needhelp, honestly, when I read you post, I started feeling nauseous. LOL, I'll read it again later.

I have peppermint essential oil. What about peppermint tea?

IHL, do you take any of the pain-relieving meds?

I did yoga today for my lower back, and I think it may have triggered the migraine.

So I'm going to order yucca and try Jernigan again.

I am at my wit's end!

Margaret
Posted 7/12/2015 6:56 PM (GMT 0)
Oh God, this is bad. I'm starting to cry.

I think I'm starting to make the women in labor sound, LOL.

M
Posted 7/12/2015 7:56 PM (GMT 0)
(((((((((((((((T))))))))))))))))), I so understand. That was me lastnight - sobbing like a baby. Sometimes one just has to let it all out - it can be a release for our head, too. Hang in there, T. Have you tried Ashwagandha tincture? I usually only take it once a day, but because I was in such a bad condition earlier today, I will be taking it 3 times today. I noticed that after taking it the second time, shortly there after, those weird head/scalp sensations were subsiding and my headache did lessen somewhat. I also took Avena Sativa before breakfast and Wild yam tincture after breakfast, as well as, COQ10, 1 mega fish oil cap and a B12 tablet. All these things are supposed to improve head/mind/ brain health .......I must say, I do feel a bit better than earlier today ( even when I first replied to your post. ). Do you take any of the supplements/ tinctures I mentioned above, T? I do think that second dose of Ashwagandha really did something good for me. Please feel better, T.
Posted 7/12/2015 9:07 PM (GMT 0)
I'm so sorry, Margaret - I hope that you have found some relief by now.

Do you still go see a doctor? If so, please call them and see what they can do - even if it's just an urgent appt. If you don't have a doc, is there an urgent care facility nearby?
Posted 7/12/2015 11:18 PM (GMT 0)
I'm so so sorry Margaret :( I'll be your headache buddy!

I take tramadol and percocet for prescription pain drugs. Very little percocet. A couple pills a month is all.

Otherwise I detox like crazy. And when I don't think I can do it I detox some more! I drink a lot of tea. For some reason lemon balm agrees with me. I massage my head. I sound like I'm in labor too sometimes. I do a very very deep meditation and try to make the lowest sound I'm capable of lol. It's silly, but I don't care in those moments!

I started screaming in the shower today. Lol. I couldn't help it. I was frustrated and home alone. It hurt, so I let it all out.

Try the peppermint oil. Some people swear by it. It never did anything for me. Another thing I do sometimes is rub lemon essential oil on my lymph glands in my throat and the back of my neck.

There are supposed to be pressure points in your feet. Never worked for me. Honestly the only thing that helps mine is narcotics. And that just makes it so I stop screaming and crying and moaning and hitting you head on the wall. I can lay down, propped up and stay quiet.

I pray alot. I beg the universe to have mercy.

I do hope you're feeling better. Let us know when you can.
Posted 7/12/2015 11:22 PM (GMT 0)
They make headache tinctures too you could try and Google it I've only tried one. It didn't work. I drank the entire bottle in about 3 hours and was still completely miserable lol.

Put peppermint oil on your temples and hum really really low.
Posted 7/13/2015 10:28 AM (GMT 0)
When you have headaches like you are having, the methylation pathway is often blocked in multiple places. That can be due to genetics, obstruction by metals (Al, Pb), or by insufficient ingredients to continue the pathway(Cu, Mg, Zn, Se, Bo, Mn, Mo, B-12, NOS, etc). Your dietary intake can help or hurt the functioning of the pathway. Reducing glutamate levels would be a good starting point. Examining the acidity/alkalinity of the foods you are eating may also benefit you. To me, ammonia is like the canary in the coal mine. It's telling you something isn't right before catastrophe happens. I've had headaches like this before and I know what you are going through. Reduce your body's acidity. I once ate raw spinach for a week. Nothing but raw spinach and olive oil. I didn't want to, but I did what I had to do.
Posted 7/13/2015 5:21 PM (GMT 0)
I have a mast cell issue and spinach is too high in histamine. I can't even take turmeric anymore! Ah!

Anyway. Ya. My doctor seems to think it's caused by an infection. I think it's a mix of everything. I think it's MTHFR issues, inflammation, infection, and all the toxins and dead bugs.

Alka seltzer gold helps me out since I can't really do the diet part for alkalinity. So that's worth a try margaret, get some alka seltzer gold. It does not fix the problem but if your consistent for a while the severity might come down.

Mine are really weird. When I lay down and then get up the pain has to go way up and peak before it starts falling back down. Sometimes it comes in waves like this. Sometimes it's the worst pain I've ever felt for 10 or 15 minutes (classic cluster headache) or it will last for days on end. I've lost so much sleep before I almost started hallucinating. Ugh. Really bad times.

There is a tincture and it starts with a P. it actually helped more than anything else I've tried besides narcotics. I cannot remember what it's called and Google searching didn't provide any answers unfortunately. If I had to guess I'd say it was petisischites. At least that's how it remember it sounding when you say it out loud. Ah! Driving me crazy!

Anyway, how are you today headache buddy? I'm miserable. My head is killing me. We shampooed our carpets and I had to sleep on the couch and layed flat for too long, now I'm paying for it. I must've been really tired because I usually wake up in pain and sit myself back up.

I hope you are feeling some relief Margaret.
Posted 7/13/2015 6:03 PM (GMT 0)
Do you take 10 mg of Montelukast daily?
Posted 7/14/2015 12:08 AM (GMT 0)
IHL - did you mean Petasites? That's Butterbur.
www.webmd.com/migraines-headaches/tc/butterbur-for-migraines-topic-overview
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