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Posted 7/14/2015 4:40 AM (GMT 0)
I figured I would give the Buhner Protocol a try. After researching on his site and reading multiple questions submitted by other people, I came up with a list that fit my symptoms. Mainly dealing with Neurological symptoms which are confusion, slight memory loss, anxiety, paranoia, and I guess some brain fog. Only tested positive for Lymes.

The list I came up with is-

Japanese Knotweed, Cat's Claw, Eleuthero, Huperzine A, Teasel, and Ashwagandha for sleeping.

Any additional recommendation to add for the symptoms I listed?


Thanks
Posted 7/14/2015 6:55 AM (GMT 0)
I don't have any to add, but wanted to suggest that you don't start everything at once.


The core protocol for lyme is Japanese Knotweed, Cat's Claw, and Eleuthero.

So, if you want to start with ashwagandha for sleeping first...then give it several days before adding in something else.
I have read that sometimes Ashwagandha has the opposite effect...and people feel too much energy and can't sleep. But, give it a try.

So, when you add in the JK, do a low dose for several days, then add in Cat's claw at a low dose for several days, and then Eleuthero.
After you're on all three at a low dose, then increase your JK , after several days increase your Cat's Claw, etc,

That way if there is a reaction, you will know what it's from.
It's better to get everything going at a low dose first....then raise each one - one at a time.
Posted 7/14/2015 1:38 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks, I was gonna start taking everything at once because I'm so frustrated at this point but good to know to ease into it so any reaction I would no from what.

Thanks again
Posted 7/15/2015 3:51 AM (GMT 0)
I started with the max does and herxed rlly bad it's up to you if you think you can handle it or not I just figured I'd rather suffer thru the herx and attack them as strongly as I could only was bad for the first couple days doing max doses
Posted 7/15/2015 5:13 AM (GMT 0)
I wouldn't recommend starting at the full dose pphillies.
Severe herxing is not good for the body...it creates inflammation. It can also be dangerous.
You won't know ahead of time if you can handle it.

So, please start low dose, one at at time.

And, remember - detox like crazy!
Posted 7/15/2015 7:20 PM (GMT 0)
We have to remember that while the body is amazing at healing, that it can only deal with one crisis at a time. Herxing badly will only take away from the possible healing that is going on, not to mention as Girlie said - for some people herxing can become life threatening.
Posted 7/15/2015 7:44 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks again, and that makes sense so I'll start with one and gradually add another.
Posted 7/15/2015 8:20 PM (GMT 0)
Please let us know how you are doing with it and if you have any questions! We have quite a few on this forum that use that protocol that can be of help!
Posted 7/15/2015 8:28 PM (GMT 0)
So far my only question is, when do I take the supplements? When I eventually take all of them, do I space it out or take all at once? I read an article from Buhner on what supplement to start with and then what to add next. I'm still on 3 antibiotics that I take 3x daily.

I didn't buy the Buhner book so I don't have all the answers, just whats available on the website.
Posted 7/15/2015 8:46 PM (GMT 0)
Well, you can take Buhner's protocols with or without food, and along side of the abx. As for how often, let start with Japanese knotweed. On his site, he says for a 150 lb adult should take 1-4 tablets 3-4x daily.

So you would start off with 1 capsule once a day.

If you don't herx after a couple of days, you take 1 capsule twice a day for a few days.

If you don't herx, you take 3 capsule a day for several days.

If you aren't herxing, take 2 capsules in the am, 1 capsule in the middle of your day and 1 capsule in the evening for several days.

If you aren't herxing, then you raise your dose to 2 capsules in the am, 2 capsules at midday and 1 capsule in the evening.

Do you get the gist? If at any time you start herxing - stop increasing the dose, and back down one capsule a day and detox like crazy until the herxing stops - then start increasing again, working your way up to the full dosage or as close as you can without herxing continuously.

Buhner has some good books on this treatment, and there are a couple of "Buhner healing Lyme" groups on Facebook that you can join if you are interested. Plus you can always ask questions here.
Posted 7/15/2015 8:55 PM (GMT 0)
I gotcha, and once u said about the 150lb adult, I remembered that it's on the side of the page. The brain decided to remember haha.

Thanks again!
Posted 7/15/2015 9:03 PM (GMT 0)
You can also find it here: buhnerhealinglyme.com/the-protocols/
Posted 7/15/2015 10:48 PM (GMT 0)
Just want to add something: When you get to one capsule three times daily on the first herb (example: Japanese Knotweed)...you should probably add in the next one (example; Cat's Claw) - at one capsule daily, and increase....

In other words, get to low dose of the three - JK, CC and Eleutheros before ramping up the first one
Low dose being one capsule 3 X daily.

I learned that from RowingMom - that's what she recommended - that it's better to get to low dose on all three, rather than max out on the first one, and then add the second....if that makes sense?

(Rowingmom - is a forum member who used Buhner's herbs to treat her daughter - and also herself - with great success.)
Posted 7/15/2015 10:56 PM (GMT 0)
Ok that sounds good.


Thanks to both of you for your responses. I was never a believer in herbs prior. After reading alot of people's responses to herbs, specifically the Buhner protocol, Im at my breaking point of being this sick so I'm adding his protocol.
Posted 7/15/2015 11:21 PM (GMT 0)
LOL! I get caught up with trying to explain how to build up to that many capsules in a day and forget about adding in other herbs!! Sorry!!! And thank you Girlie for catching that!!

Congratulations for learning what has been a very valuable lesson for me!! I've now healed from Lyme twice with herbs only.

We have to remember that the world wasn't falling apart before the invent of abx - herbs, if one knew how to use them, kept many thousands of people healthy all their lives in many parts of the world!!
Posted 7/15/2015 11:42 PM (GMT 0)
That is very true. Thanks again for your help!
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