Good Morning everyone having a tough time

not in remission here, but I'd guess you are going thru a herx you might want to take a few days break off the med? If your body feels better or calms down a bit it would indicate you are herxing. Sometimes your body needs a breather and then you can better judge what is happening. But especially if your original symptoms are flaring or coming back, that is strong indication of a herx. You could run that idea by your dr and see what they think.

I feel for you, gripping anxiety and insomnia are two of my worst herx symptoms, and when they get bad it just brings me to my knees. Part of the reason I have to treat so slowly and really be careful with meds is my sensitivity to getting massive torturous runaway herxing.

Sometimes you just need to try taking the med every other day or even every 3rd day for a while and then ramp up slowly over a period of time once your body acclimates.

Good luck! I really relate to your post as I've triggered a terrible herxing spell this last week and the anxiety and insomnia have been crushing.

How long did your herxing last i know everyone is different?Does the anxiety ever go away?

Thank you! your kind words mean a lot, and it is very helpful to share these things.

I'm single-minded in my goal of recovering my health and I'm coming back from a heck of a deep hole, I've come such a long ways but having a herx like I did this last week only shows that I still have a tough journey ahead. There is nothing like endless herx symptoms to just make everything feel overwhelming, make getting better seem impossible.

So what I've learned, is that if I can't handle a med, I need to dose way down, and not dose every day. I can take herxing, but I can't take high-level constant herxing that lasts endlessly, keeps me from sleeping, and keeps me constantly on edge with anxiety and lack of focus. That kind of herxing takes 100% of my mental and physical energies to truck on thru.

Trav might be right, you might need to lay off for a few weeks to see what your return to baseline is. Mentally I have a hard time taking breaks from meds because I just want to feel like I'm always pushing forward against this disease. But breaks can be huge boosts and allow you to catch your breath, and then you can restart at a more reasonable dosage rate that is more manageable.

But I'm impatient so it is easier said than done and I have a heck of a time taking my own advice!

Well, I was herxing a bit like usual on meds, but then took full dose herbals for 3 days in a row (meds I had either never taken or not taken in a long time) and was herxing but it seemed manageable but was more fatigued than usual. Then I took my usual round of meds and it just triggered a monster runaway herx. So the major runaway herxing started last Tuesday. I'm still shaky today but better.

The herx seemed to be waning yesterday, so I idiotically ended up taking Grapefruit seed extract for the first time. I'm supposed to be introducing GSE into my protocol. I should've waited a day or two to really feel stronger and allow myself to catch a good night's rest. The GSE did make me herx but seems like it will be manageable, but it retriggered the underlying severe herx (anxiety, insomnia) I had been dealing with. Today anxiety is better, but still a bit shaky! so no antimicrobial stuff for me today, I need to catch a solid night's rest before I get back on track.

Herxing adds to my underlying impatience and anxiety of wanting to get better and doing anything it takes. Being in that anxious herxing state makes me more liable to make stupid decisions and keep piling on the meds and overloading my system. Patience patience patience. Building up the meds slow is the smart way to go. Taking breaks is ok. I hope I will learn that some day.

keep hanging in there! for me alka seltzer gold can help take the edge off for an hour or two. Chamomile tea helps me. Lemon water. Sometimes if the herx has gotten too out of control you just detox to take the edge off but the main thing that will help is a break from the meds so you can rebalance and regroup.

Also could try epsom salt baths. People seem to like activated charcoal as well for runaway herxes.

I guess with the heatwave exercise or biking or something like that are out the window! hard to say if those things would help anyways, depending on your condition and symptoms, but if you can manage a little bit of exercise it could be helpful? Or even walking. Walking doesn't cure me from my herx symptoms but it helps distract me a bit and gets me outside. Exercising when I'm already herxing is actually hurtful for me, I don't know why I suggested that to you, I guess it depends on your underlying condition.

I live in Phoenix, I soak my head in water and soak my hat and walk anyways, even if it is 110, just because I need the walking therapy so badly! don't recommend doing it if you aren't feeling well so please be careful don't want to be pushing you to expose yourself to all that heat when you already aren't feeling well. But maybe in the coming days if it cools down you can do some light walking?

Keep hanging in there! my thoughts are with you

And there are a lot more detox practices that you could add in, like oil pulling, dry skin brushing (this moves the Lymph as well - VERY important), lymph massages, and more. Some people will also use detox teas, and detox foot pads and other things. When I was really sick though, I found those things to be kind of harsh for my body.

Awww hi sebreg thats very thoughtful thankyou its nice to know thier are still nice and genuine people out there. I bought some alka seltzer gold def helps some i am tolerating the meds just trying to be strong i see my dr in 3 weeks i am hoping i am going to be doing a little better before i see him if not i will def talk to him about it i felt pretty good yesterday i think depression is the hardest for me as i have never been depressed before i think i will def take a walk tonight, and how are you?

Yes depression and anxiety is the hardest i wonder if i will.ever be normal i think i need to look into yoga to help calm my mind because it seems to be all over the place the teacher at the ymca whom i loved left she was awesome slow and steady with yoga and her stretch classes they have not replaced anyone for those classes but they really did help me emotionally .Glad to hear you are also feeling better and thanks trav .I really miss taking a nap during the day but i have not been able to do that since i got sick just can not wait to feel better i pray we all get better😄

I am doing ok on the meds its like a rollercoaster you do not know what personality you are going to get lol could not tolerate rifampin or doxy thought i wanyed to die but so far ok but who knowsi see my dr and he will prob add something else in next time i believe a cyst buster