LB Tonic Protocol

Is the the Green Dragon Botanicals brand?

Remember whatever is the correct dosage...you need to start off low...and gradually increase.

I also recommend doing the individual herbs - one at a time...so you know if you're reacting to one, you will know which one it is.

I second Girlie's suggestion of starting each of those herbs one at a time. The Japanese Knotweed can make some people herx pretty hard!! Plus there are other herbs that increase immune function, which will kill off even more bacteria - which is good, but not at full dose all at once!

I haven't been able to find out what the "typical" dose is, so I don't know if 6 caps 3 times a day is a large dose or not, but you need to start off on single herbs and build up to using all of them to avoid a major herx.

Ok, thank you so much for all of the information!! I will try starting with one capsule 3x a day and see how I do. I already have the combo so maybe I will see if I can tolerate it before ordering them each individually. I really appreciate your help!

Brit - Are you already on the biaxin and Mino?

You don't want to start the herbs and antibiotics together.

Also start the antibiotics one at a time - and low dose.

Good idea!!

I started mino on July 16th - half dose for a week (100mg daily) and it hit me hard - and even harder when I went to full dose. I'd say I pretty much herxed for three weeks straight.

My LLND actually told me to start on half dose so I think he knew it would hit me hard - he's never advised me to do that with any other abx.

I am feeling lite-headed too and overall body pain.

Girlie said...
So, the GD LB Tonic - 3 capsules contain 500 mg each of Cat's Claw and Jap Knotweed plus some other herbs - Andographis, Sarsaparilla, etc.

The individual Jap Knotweed capsules contain 500 mg each, Cat's Claw - 450 mg each

So, if I'm doing the 'figuring' correctly:
6 pills would be like 2 caps of Jk and CC. So that is 2 caps of each three times daily - too much to start.

Start with 1 capsule three time daily. After a week, if that's working well, then increase - maybe two 2 caps in the morning, and 1 cap afternoon, 1 cap evening.

You may not even need to go to 6 caps 3 x daily. I believe Buhner's protocol is 1-4 caps of JK (500 mg) and CC (450 mg) 3-4 X daily.

So, the low dose (Buhner) is only 500 mg of JK three x daily and 450 mg CC three X daily. That would equal 3 caps 3 X daily of your combo. (approximately)
(Did I do the math right?)

Well here I come pulling up the rear Traveler steered me to this to try here best to stop my old head from spinning around till it fell OFF completely I am nearly to my full dose using Tinctures of all 3 using the Eleuthero. So when looking at the website it never shows how many they recommend so I was asking myself well this is nice & super convenient but how much it it gonna COST me actually...now I can grab a calculator and see if just how much it is gonna cost me for all the convenience.

But as I close in on full dose it is driving me NUTS (short trip!) to count out drops 3 times every day I don't feel any better so far and finished my 28 day course of Doxy antibiotic 2 days ago. But at least I don't feel any worse. Had a weird green coating on top of my tongue since I quit the antibiotic that worries me but likely only have the Bubonic Plague or somethin simple like that?

Since there also seems to be a 3 WEEK wait on this "all in one" protocol I will likely order another order of Tinctures from Sage while waiting so I don't run out? I wonder if anyone else has used this lately and can say just how long it takes to actually arrive once order is placed? And how is service etc if any issues arise?

Thank you-this is EXACTLY what I was loking for. Well except the 6 weeks part. THAT is scary and if it is habitual, maybe no my best option....I LOVE Sage but am hoping to do the "Lazyboy" option this provides.

Yeah it stands to reason. I wonder what the risks are of supplementing a different brand (like I already have) in the background and then at least keep at least somebodies medicine in me at all times? I hate to use one brand for 3-6 weeks then jump back to another. Seems like that may not be much good at all though? Having lost all use of both legs I am afraid to back off at ALL so sure do wish they had the resources to ramp up. Thank God they are at least HERE for all who need them though. Seems like an industry that should attract the super players and I am shocked they aren't jumping into this in a big way. My biggest problem is I am new in this and have no clue on who to trust. Seems like a wonderful idea if there were a FAQ page with a list of "RELIABLE" sources for product with a rating system.

Thank you Girlie-I knew of those but wish we had some resource HERE by members on who they use, how well they were treated, how well the meds worked etc. Just something to help weed out the scams and such. I LOVE the service I got from Sage, I mean faster than Amazon and fair pricing but they only have Cat's Claw in capsules so stuck with counting drops with my Tinctures. Somewhere around twenty five or thirty I fall asleep!

Girlie said...
When I ordered Green Dragon Botanicals - in 2014 - they didn't take very long...but it sounds like they've gotten busier.

Woodland Essence is quite slow.

I can't remember about Sage Woman Herbs

I ordered from Sage at 11 PM on a Sunday. It shipped next day and I had it in my hand Tuesday MORNING in California! Hard to beat that and well packed. The $12.50 or whatever it was turned out to be more than fair given her pricing. Or I thought so anyway.

Bump

Thank you, and I will. But i was right though, that LB Core is for the most part, most of the protocal if not all?