Coffee? How many people during treatment drink coffee?

It's more of a question of your adrenal health than anything. Any caffeine when you have adrenals issues is going to work against healing them - but if you aren't having adrenal issues, a cup or two of coffee can be helpful as long as it's not loaded down with creamer and sugar - although you can use honey, stevia or xylitol as a sweetener without worrying about it increasing chances of yeast/fungal issues.

MY BRAIN FOG WAS LIKE COMPLETELY GONE UNTIL i started using a sauna again and after the sauna terrible brain fog that is still here was gonna try coffee to help idk

I still drink my 1 cup of coffee in the morning and I add sugar to it! Not much sugar, just a pinch, the way I like it.

Okay, you all are making me jealous!! LOL!! Bad adrenals here , so no coffee!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

I just recently started drinking coffee again. Maybe 1 cup or 2. I wasn't able to drink coffee for about 1 1/2 years because it made me extremely nauseated and I would occasionally vomit. I had been a heavy coffee drinker prior to getting sick.
idk

I loved my caffeine. No way I could have made it through college with my (undiagnosed) lyme without it. But I think I did some long-term damage relying on it so heavily. So I'm with Traveler, no coffee until my adrenals and overall endocrine system come back to life. For the first couple years since diagnosis I drank kombucha (though even after brewing my own I became concerned about how much residual sugar was in it...) or green tea. Now my body seems to be rejecting either... MAJOR nausea if I drink any caffeine. The "vice" that seems to still be tolerated is raw cacao. I make a cool faux hot chocolate in the mornings with raw cacao, stevia, cinnamon, and warm water. At this point I'm just eating and drinking what my body okays by keeping down. But yeah if a bit of stimulant is wrong I don't wanna be right!

Coffee is such a tricky one. Case by case basis I imagine.

I've been constantly herxing so hard lately and sleeping so badly I had to stop all coffee. But it gives me a mental boost in the mornings to feel that energy and clarity, even if it is brief it is a nice break and also provides pain relief. And it helps me get thru the days. I'm thinking if I can treat less aggressively via pulse therapy then I can resume a snippet of coffee and it can hopefully be a beneficial thing for me mentally.

myeezy, Thanks for bumping, sometimes I loose track of the threads!
I'm not clear on what precisely causes the nausea.
I suspect that it's a result of my adrenal fatigue, in that the jolt to the body of the caffeine, especially without any accompanying calories/fats, is just too much stress... And I believe that my body under stress tends towards nausea. In general I'm struggling a bit with food, and caffeine without some food along with it is more stressful for the adrenals, so that might be partly why caffeine has become less accepted by my body.
Your lower tolerance for caffeine and getting the jitters does sound like your system is more vulnerable/delicate... You say your adrenals tested fine which is great, but it's also true that if you're dealing with Lyme your system is under stress, and caffeine is extra stress, so maybe your adrenals though fine are being strained a bit. In general when there's illness it's probably a good idea to take special care of the adrenals. But I don't mean to dissuade you from your coffee... Honestly I think it's brutal to eliminate every little pleasure/helper. Maybe you just need less to get the same result, or you might try to make sure you eat with it.

Actually, caffeine pushes the adrenals to keep producing cortisol at high levels, and for adrenals that aren't functioning well, this can push them to very low levels of functioning.

And it depends on what type of a test a person has to check their adrenals. Blood tests are rarely performed properly. A saliva test, where there are 4 collection times in one day, is the most accurate - and may save you from serious adrenal issues.

Most doctors don't have a clue as to how to diagnose low adrenals, only when they are in the process of shutting down (Addisonian Crisis) - at which time your life is in danger - not just your health, but many things can be done long before they reach that point. For anyone that is interested in doing a few home tests for low adrenals and possibly ordering your own adrenal saliva test, see this page: www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

As for coffee and it's affect on adrenal glands, here are some articles that go into it a bit:

"What happens each time you drink a cup of coffee? Your brain sends a message to the pituitary gland, which releases a hormone that tells your adrenals to produce the stress hormones adrenaline and cortisol. In other words, you are triggering exactly the same kind of stress response that your body uses when you are in imminent physical danger."
adrenalfatiguesolution.com/caffeine/


"Here’s the problem. Coffee stimulates the adrenal glands, which means that every time you drink coffee, you’re activating the body’s fight-or-flight response. But, instead of releasing adrenaline so the body can react to a true stressor, the adrenals are releasing this hormone in response to your coffee consumption.

What happens over time is that your adrenal glands start to burn out from overuse, which can lead to adrenal fatigue."

drjessechappus.com/the-impact-of-coffee-on-your-adrenal-glands/


" Dr. Bruce Rind MD, a holistic endocrinologist whose talk focused on spotting and reversing thyroid and adrenal problems.

I learned from Dr. Rind that the health of the thyroid gland and the adrenal glands is inextricably linked. If one goes south, the other one probably will too and in very short order.

Adrenal problems can frequently masquerade as thyroid problems. As a result, if the adrenal glands are being stressed day in and day out by lack of sleep, too much sugar and caffeine in the diet and a rush rush lifestyle loaded with carbohydrate heavy processed foods, thyroid gland problems will eventually manifest along with the adrenal problems."

www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/6-little-known-signs-of-adrenal-fatigue/


"Adrenal glands function to produce hormones essential to life. The adrenal medulla is the inner portion of the adrenal gland, and produces adrenaline and noradrenaline. The adrenal cortex is the outer portion of the adrenal gland, and produces cortisol, estrogen, progesterone and testosterone. Cortisol regulates other hormones, balances metabolism and manages immune function. Chronic stress, such as that incurred by daily consumption of caffeine, creates a situation of sustained high levels of cortisol."

www.livestrong.com/article/269199-caffeine-effects-on-the-adrenal-function/

Myeezy, did you start getting the nausea from coffee since you started treatment or was it basically once you first got sick? Just curious.

You could just try to have a tiny bit and see if it can help without causing you too many side effects. I feel like I have heard a lot of stories of people getting sick with these diseases and then no longer being able to tolerate caffeine. It is kind of weird and hard to know the mechanism of what is going on, coffee is quite a complex substance.

And maybe as you get further along in treatment you will be better able to tolerate coffee again.

Hope you feel better!

LymePickle, that sounds great! I want to come over and have some of your coffee.

So what is MCT?

Can you give the exact recipe? What form is your raw Cocao in? I have the powder form, but it does not dissolve well in liquid.

I would love this for a change in my breakfast. How much of each ingredient? Does it still taste like coffee?

Thanks

I think you could try a cup of coffee and just see how you feel the next day. Coffee is a two sided coin. On one side, it is a stimulant and chronic illness already has us in a state of fight-or-flight all the time. On the other side, it removes dampness (re: Chinese medicine), detoxes the liver and helps produce more bile.

Not as stimulating, but much more beneficial would be - and I hate to say it - a coffee enema. Not too often, but it can really help with elimination.