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Posted 9/30/2015 12:34 PM (GMT 0)
Just curious to know if it is common to utilize an herbal and antibiotic protocol at the same time.....

I am interested in doing the full Buhner core protocol including his coinfection protocol....though.... I am a few weeks into a mino/rifampin/tinidazole protocol...
Posted 9/30/2015 12:37 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, it is common! I've done Cowden and Byron White herbals while on abx. I would talk about it with your doctor first.
Posted 9/30/2015 12:53 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you sarahm620..
My present doctor is focused on the abx and I know that the herbal discussion would be fruitless.... I am going to a new doctor next week who I believe is more suited to discussing a mix. My understanding is that she leans the other way towards natural methods though interestingly she was herself treated for lyme with IV antibiotics by a local doctor whom has since retired...
Posted 9/30/2015 1:00 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, many people combine herbs and abx.

In fact, I commented to my LLMD recently that I regret not taking at least Japanese Knotweed at the same time I was taking abx mostly because JK helps abx "reach further".

Truly, if I knew back then what I do now (sound familiar? lol), I would have been doing an herbal protocol all along.

My LLMD was the one who told me to start an herbal protocol (Buhner, Cowden or White) after going off abx. But, I soon realized he's not too "up" on herbal Lyme treatments despite being a homeopathic GP (and ILADS-trained). I'm guessing he realizes that herbal protocols can be effective.

Your new doctor sounds promising, B777 - hope you'll let us know how things go with her next week.
Posted 9/30/2015 1:10 PM (GMT 0)
I will pass on my experience with her ...I have high hopes.

That is an interesting point about the japanese knotweed. Of similar nature ...I recall reading that teasel draws the bacteria into the blood stream.
Posted 9/30/2015 4:19 PM (GMT 0)
B777 - My Dr. is a LLND and he combines both abx and herbals. Once I stabilize on the abx, I will be adding in some Buhner herbs.

Btw how are you doing on the Mino /Rif combo so far?


Are you on full doses of each?
I am on 100mg twice daily Mino and 300 mg twice daily Rif.

I am finding the full dose of Rif - bad herxing....(I started a thread on it)

Are you taking Rif on mt stomach? I started out that way but it was causing phlegm in the back if my throat and my esophagus was burning a bit.so now I am eating bfore taking it.

Edited post: I typed "Are you taking Rif on my stomach?" lol...I hope not...as my stomach is barely tolerating just me taking it on my stomach...don't need you taking it on my stomach, too.... turn
Posted 9/30/2015 5:44 PM (GMT 0)
I'm on a treatment program of both pharmaceuticals and herbal meds and it seems to be working.
Ceftin (pharma)
Nystatin(Pharma)
Grapefruit seeds extract(herb)
SLF Forte (herb)
Serra Peptase(herb)
Probiotics(herb)
Pinella(herb)
Vitamin D(herb)
A-Tula (for my Tuleremia)(herb)
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