Saddened by Babesia article I came across

maybe not a cure - but definitely remission - with all symptoms resolved.

I'm surprised she doesn't have any patients that are in remission - she makes it sound like they are somewhat better, but not symptom free.

We have members here who are symptom free - Traveler is one of them. She had lyme, bart and babs.

i guess i'm not there yet pete. i'm ok with the bugs swimming around in my system if i was only symptom free. this every day not knowing how you're going to feel and if you have symptoms how severe they'll be is completely debilitating when trying to make plans to pretty much do anything. its like your near house bound. plan a vacation? going on a long drive? who knows if you can do that. it feels like i'm kind of in jail right now.

Hey! Get DOWN off of that ledge!!

Many years ago my Grandma was diagnosed with terminal ovarian cancer. The doctor gave her 6 months max. She did one bout of chemo and said she was too old for that sort of cr*p. She wasn't prepared to feel that ill and so refused any more.

Anyhoodle, she decided that the chemo she had had cured her. Period. The doctor rolled his eyes but let her be. She died 12 years later of something entirely unrelated.

A perfectly healthy friend of mine dropped dead one tuesday afternoon of a brain anurisum.

What is my point? No one can possibly tell you 'for sure' what the future might or might not be. That's just life. But while you are worrying that you won't ever get better from one thing something else is equally capable of sneaking up and biting you on the behind.

What 'cures' may lie just around the corner? Who knows. What else might see fit to knock us down? Who knows that either. What matters is today. Only today. Period.

And if you aren't 'cured' but are completely symptom free?? Then that's OK, no??

thanks for the advice and support. this is by far the hardest thing i've ever dealt with and came completely out of the blue. if you would've told me what do you think would happen to you if you ever lost your good health, lyme would'n't even be on a list 100 pages long.

my symptoms are primarily in my head which affects my perception, energy, ability to think/work/play, pretty much everything. it's very debilitating. my job requires me to me using my brain a lot and have energy and that's been very challenging.

what's also challenging is trying to figure out what's working, what isn't, etc. it's like i'm a guinea pig and the doctors keep trying new formulas on me. i know this is nothing new for the vast majority of us i guess i was hoping that my case would be a straightforward one and it seems i'm fairly resistant to many of the popular protocols.

as some of you know i'm on alinia 3x a week and zithro/tinidazole the other 4. alinia seemed to of helped during the first round but after stopping and going through the 4 days of zithro/tinidazole i regressed. i seemed to of done better on the cefdinir but that was causing sore throat issues for some reason. i'll keep y'all posted thanks again for your support.

Rikky1...get down, now! Ok, there are a lot of things I want to say...so I'll bullet point them to make it easier to read:

1) First off, everyone here is dealing with this very difficult and complex disease, so luckily we all can provide some advice, which is great! I personally struggle with wishing I didn't have it and things were different (plus previous injuries being an athlete don't help). Like others have said, there is no way to tell what cures or what technology lays around the corner. Right now there is not a lot of evidence to state lyme can be eradicted complete. Will it ever be able to? Who knows. But here's the rub- the fact of the matter is there are many, many people who walk around every single day with lyme in their bodies as well as co-infections and lord knows what else, and are completely healthy. Why? Because their bodies are so strong, their internal environment is so strong and inhospitable to pathogens, that they cannot thrive and take over the body. My point is, once you're in remission, it is not a life long struggle to retain your health, it is your obligation to yourself to make your mind and body as strong as you can, that remission does not even occur. The benefit is that you simply take care of yourself way better then you ever have before getting sick; and I'm sure the benefits will greatly outweigh the risks.

2)My mom is recovering from 6-7 years of bilateral breast cancer. She is doing AMAZING. The point is, she will have breast cancer cells in her body, even 1 or 2 cells, roaming around her entire life. People everywhere have viruses and pathogens hiding out in their bodies for years and remain healthy, they are healthy because their immune system, gut, etc. is very healthy and strong and able to fight off the crap that is trying to make them sick

3) Besides antibiotics, are you doing anything outside of your standard western medical practices? Are you taking anything herbal, detoxing, changing your diet, reducing stress, looking at any possible methylation issues that prevent you from detoxing, mold, parasites etc? It SOUNDS like a lot, but in reality these are all issues that 99% of lyme patients deal with and have to address in order to feel better. Antibiotics alone will not cure you, period. Anyone who thinks abx will cure you or heal you of lyme is just sorely mistaken. That's like saying I have cancer, so pumping a chemical in me will cure me and I'm fine forever. If you listen to lectures by Dr. Jernigan, Dr. Dashore, Dr. Horowitz, etc. they all have pretty much the same principle in healing; it isn't the lyme bacteria, the co-infections, etc., that get you sick...something happened along the way that brokedown your bodies ability to maintain a health state, a solid homeostasis if you will. Like I mentioned, plenty of people out there have lyme in their bodies but never get sick

4)Remission is not a bad thing, that does not mean you won't feel like yourself ever again. There are members here who have been in remission for years, Traveler is a great example. We run the risk of getting sick when we fall back on old habits that made us sick in the first place; stress, eating poorly, not exercising, lowering our immune system, not sleeping, not taking any antimicrobials/herbals (if you feel you need to), detoxing on occasion. Lyme isn't the problem, it's our bodies that get out of function. We literally have trillions upon trilions of bacteria in our bodies, and guess what? The bad bacteria usually out number the good in today's modern person, but it's up to us to turn the tables and keep a large number of healthy bacteria kicking the bad bacteria's butts everyday.

Stay strong, don't lose hope, this isn't a death sentence. Life will go on, you will get better. You're going to have really crappy days when you want to give up and that's OK, just don't let it take you down. Think of this as an opportunity to not only gain your health back, but to you make it better then ever before.

Rikky~Look at it this way, some of the viruses, buggers are struggling for life, just as you. It does not mean they can not co-exist. You CAN get to a point you feel great, even if a few squigglies are within.

And just remember, if has been in the body for awhile, it might take just a wee bit longer to conquer. Hang in there~you are not alone & it will get better.