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Posted 12/14/2015 12:27 AM (GMT 0)
I take 1 tbs of Cholestyramine at 11 am 3 PM and 2 tbs at 9 pm. I have to take all my other stuff in between and eat.

I usually herx a lot between 3 and 8 pm before I take my bath. It's really awful...I've herxed so much lately that I feel like the old days before treatment. When I add the charcoal, I think I do better. It takes about 15 minutes.

Am I killing too much and creating too many toxins for the Cholestyramine to mop up? Should I just try taking the Charcoal prophylactically to try and avoid the herx? Can I also add the alka seltzer gold on top?!?! Should I wait 15 minutes after I take the Cholostyramine then do the charcoal or can I just do them at the same time?

I have the MTHFR mutation and the HLA mutation (hard to process mold toxins), so I think I am backing up. I didn't take my detox supplements today and I feel way worse...I've been herxing so much, I actually thought I was over doing my supplements.

Should I add an extra foot bath in around 3 or something? Really need to get this under control. Thanks!!!!
Posted 12/14/2015 7:00 AM (GMT 0)
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Posted 12/14/2015 2:43 PM (GMT 0)
I was reading about the Cowden stuff. Maybe I should order some Parsley and Burbur and take the drops for herxs. Its says you can take them every 15 mins.
Posted 12/14/2015 2:59 PM (GMT 0)
Binders like charcoal need to be taken 3 hours away from everything else (food, supplements, meds). The stuff works really well so incorporating it daily would be very helpful.

And, yes, it sounds like you need to up your daily detox. Maybe you can find some things that appeal to you here:

www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

I've used Burbur, Pinella and/or Parsley every 10 minutes to tame herxes in the past.

I've been take 10 drops each Burbur and Pinella 3x per day for a long while now.....along with a bunch of other stuff lol

I think I've finally gotten ahead of the killing because I'm not really herxing these days - yay :)
Posted 12/14/2015 4:27 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks! Ordering now!!!
Posted 12/16/2015 4:55 AM (GMT 0)
I feel you on this one. As a fellow MTHFR mutation I seem to never get ahead on detoxing when I kill.

I have had a terrible time with Cholestyramine and Welchol but I seem to have better time with Charcoal and Zeolite.

Enemas and colon hydrotherapy honestly is the only way I can stay ahead of toxins since I seem to be in a constant bart kill. I hate even the thought of them but they work so well to keep me from being toxed I just figure "oh well time to get to work detoxing."
Posted 12/16/2015 2:22 PM (GMT 0)
cr3ativegirl - We may have touched on this before but which MTHFR and HLA do you have? I recently read an article about using modified citrus pectin for a few months before the cholestyramine. I will see if I can find the link.
Posted 12/16/2015 2:42 PM (GMT 0)
http://www.tiredoflyme.com/lyblog/the-best-ive-felt-thus-far

I was thinking of taking it. Seems like it is not as strong as cholestyramine. I need to find more info on specifics of dosing.
Posted 12/16/2015 4:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,

I have MTHFR C677T (HOMOZYGOUS)AND HLA-DRB1 (HETEROZYGOUS). My Lyme doc says Mold is my bigger issue. I take B-12 shots and I take about 400 methyl-folate a day. That is all I can take before I over-methylate. I await my Burbur and Parsley extracts to arrive.

Yesterday, I did a cod liver oil pack with Lavender and Frankincense and also later, drank some Dandelion Tea. I just got an alkaline water system installed, and it all really helped. I had a great day! I barely felt my symptoms at all. My main symptoms when I herx are numb feet, ringing ears, fizzing in my head, internal body tremor and various sharp joint pains that migrate. I'm starting to see a pattern and hopefully, I can minimize them (although I feel like it's all day long every day trying to stay on top of them.

Thanks to all the generous tips and descriptions from all the members here, it is so helpful to not freak out and be panicky when the symptoms come. I am trying to reframe and think - "YES - just killed some more bugs." instead of "oh my god, I'm dying."






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Posted 12/16/2015 4:30 PM (GMT 0)
You mentioned that you herx a lot between 3-8. I notice that your 1st dose to your 2nd dose is 4 hours and your 2nd to 3rd is 6 hours. I don't know if you are like me but my body can tell me when it is time to take my meds. I have to keep mine at regular intervals and I do about 4 1/2 hours or my body says "hey, here is a symptom to remind you to take your herbs!" Just a guess, but I know we all will try most anything.
Posted 12/16/2015 9:13 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, that's a good point....I eat dinner around 7, and I think I'm worried it's too close to dinner to do charcoal or cholestyramine so I'm looking for alternatives. The burbur and parsley would be easy to use if they work on me.
Posted 12/16/2015 11:39 PM (GMT 0)
kyo07 - that was an interesting article. I feel just like her - a mouse on a detox wheel and I can't stop or bad things happen. I do have the same HDL - DR gene defect. It takes me forever to wake up from surgery and to get over hangovers (back in the day!).

My doctor wants me on 4 doses of cholestyramine a day, so I guess I just have to make room for it somehow and not worry about my vitamins and minerals getting absorbed. I re-read the instructions he gave me originally about cholestyramine and it says just wait 30 minutes! My doc said one hour before, two hours after. Here is the link to the handout. It mentions chronic biotoxin illness.

http://www.survivingmold.com/treatment/information-on-medications

My new go to fast detox: I put castor oil on a cut up cotton sheet and plastic on top from a cut garbage back and then I pour Now Lavender essential oil and Frankenscense and wrap an ace bandage around it. Wow. Stopped the Herx in 5 mins.
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