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Posted 12/19/2015 2:19 PM (GMT 0)
...is all it takes for someone to become infected by a tick.

Per pg. 121 of Buhner's new Lyme book:

"Recent research has found that it is extremely common for ticks to disengage from a host before they feed to completion. These "fed" ticks, once they attach to a new host, can transmit Lyme organisms in as little as ten minutes not the 24 to 48 hours that most sources cite. Most ticks are partially fed, not unfed, when they bite a new host."

Obviously, we can become infected from unengorged ticks.

Further along on that page, Buhner writes:

"Deeper analysis has shown that transmission in less than 24 hours occurs 83 percent of the time"


Rebuild those immune systems, everyone, if you don't want to ever revisit these infections.
Posted 12/19/2015 2:39 PM (GMT 0)
Yes!!!

It's all about immune response, not the bacteria. They are everywhere and always have been.

Our immune systems are compromised by:

- stress
- destruction of our probiotic gut bacteria which form a large part of our immune response, by pesticides which act as antimicrobials
- nutritional deficiencies caused by the chelating effects of glyphosate on minerals in our food.
- EMF exposure which deregulates the body's own electrical systems (heart, nervous system) resulting in the body having to continuously attempt to re-regulate (another type of stress).
- high metal loads caused by environmental contamination and/or metal vaccine adjuvants and dental work.
Posted 12/19/2015 4:19 PM (GMT 0)
I was bit in April. I never saw the tick. I assume it was a nymph and it may have been there, but too tiny. I am sure that my loofa and Dr. Bonner's Lavender soap that I used that night got that stinker off me. He was probably only on me for 5 hours. So I never did believe in this 24 hour rule from the beginning.
Posted 12/19/2015 4:29 PM (GMT 0)
Fleas, mosquitoes, etc can transmit in a nanosecond a variety of fun lovelies.
Posted 12/19/2015 6:21 PM (GMT 0)
With the non-existing winter that we are all experiencing in the northern hemisphere i would not be surprised if these ticks would grow exponentially in the next 5-10 years and this Lyme disease will become as common as the flu. It doesn't even need mosquitoes as vector.

Hope im mistaking ...
Posted 12/19/2015 7:41 PM (GMT 0)
Since the snow melted a few weeks ago, and less insulation for wintering ticks, I was happy to see it finally 10f this morning. 35 tomorrow though, not good.

I had the rash 30 yrs ago, but I now wonder, if and how many times I was possibly re-infected since I'm an out doors fanatic.
Posted 12/19/2015 10:37 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, still think we need a "like" button for some of these posts!!

I just pulled a tick off of my smallest dog - with an expanding Bulls eye rash at the site. So, stay aware everyone!! Those tick LOVE this warmer weather. A few cold nights are not enough to kill them off!

Astro, I was the same way. In a way, I do wish the different strains I had could have been identified, if for no other reason than we would all know what strains cover the Western half of the US! LOL! I've lived in many of those states and have had ticks from every single one of them.
Posted 12/20/2015 5:01 AM (GMT 0)
If cows goats bison chickens and pigs are infected and we eat meat or eggs or drink their milk even pasturized or cooked what are the chances? Also like happy jo said mosquitos that feed then transmit.. .i think we are on the verge of a real epidemic...
Posted 12/20/2015 11:26 AM (GMT 0)
With improper tick removal, a tick only needs to be attached for 1 second for transmission to occur. Don't pull ticks off like we always did as kids, that squeezes their stomach contents into the wound. They must be lifted from underneath and there are some really nice tick removal tools available.
Posted 12/20/2015 1:40 PM (GMT 0)
It was unsettling to read that tick feces contain infectious organisms (although that makes sense).

The tick that infected me was invisibly hiding inside a tiny red pimple that I decided to investigate the day after I first noticed it.

I followed the tick removal procedure described in "The Lyme Disease Solution" - swirling a cotton ball soaked with soapy water over the area (which I now know is NOT a good idea and it's incredulous to me that a LLMD shared this in his book).

The tick backed out and obviously left her "gifts". (I know it was a female tick because I'd asked my GP to send the tick out to be checked for infections. She sent it to LabCorp thinking they'll "send it to some lab in CA (IGenex). Instead, LabCorp confirmed it was female nymph deer tick. I didn't care about the gender!!! I knew it was a nymph deer tick. 20/20 hindsight).

The rest is history.

Since we really don't stand a chance of preventing every single bite from an infectious insect, our best chance at preventing disease is a healthy immune system.
Posted 12/20/2015 1:42 PM (GMT 0)
Oh, Buhner writes about the use of Astragalus tincture on a new bite along with Bentonite Clay patch afterwards.....these seem to prevent infection. Of course, this only helps for a noticed bite.

He also shares a recipe for a natural tick repellent. If all of the ingredients listed are used, the repellent is ~99% effective against Borrelia. What about the other infectious organisms?

Back to the immune system....
Posted 12/20/2015 4:10 PM (GMT 0)
I agree CD - back to the immune system.
Posted 12/20/2015 9:26 PM (GMT 0)
I dont think its lyme doomsday for everybody.

There are many "backwoods" people in lyme county that clearly dont get lyme.

I find this very interesting. You know they get ticks, must be a superior immune system these people have. But what part of it, and how can others boost theirs? Must be genetics. You can go broke with immune boosting supplements, that clearly do nothing for some people. I wish this was thoroughly studied, with shared results.
Posted 12/20/2015 9:44 PM (GMT 0)

astroman said...
I dont think its lyme doomsday for everybody.

Exactly!!!

astroman said...
There are many "backwoods" people in lyme county that clearly dont get lyme.

I find this very interesting. You know they get ticks, must be a superior immune system these people have. But what part of it, and how can others boost theirs? Must be genetics. You can go broke with immune boosting supplements, that clearly do nothing for some people. I wish this was thoroughly studied, with shared results.

Rowingmom shared what compromises the immune system. We need to do the opposite ;)

Buhner writes that 1000mg Astragalus will elevate the parts of the immune system necessary to prevent these infections.....and the dose is to be increased to 3000mg during "high season".

He cautions about possible autoimmune-type response in those with chronic Lyme. Starting slow and low is the way to go as always.

There *are* studies about boosting immune function and the bulk of it happens in the gut.

That's why I eat as organic as possible and definitely avoid the Dirty Dozen. I plan on continuing with my daily home-made kefir for the rest of my life and will also continue the various mushrooms I've been taking for easily 7-8 years now (with the new addition of Chaga tea ;)

And, yes, I'm taking Astragalus - 500mg daily for now
Posted 12/20/2015 10:37 PM (GMT 0)
I used astragalus all of this year (2015)and had 3 times where I *should* have gotten Lyme, but didn't. I had a raised, very very red and angry lump that was also quite large (nickle to quarter size) that stuck with me for a few weeks last summer - but I still don't have any symptoms.

This is after having a tick attach the summer before (2014) for less than 10 minutes and getting Lyme again and needing to retreat.

I'm staying on the 1,000 mgs a day for now during the 'slow season' for Lyme and will increase it again next spring. I have some other things going on with my body, but I will do my best to hold on to this preventative, as it clearly works for me.
Posted 12/21/2015 2:38 AM (GMT 0)
You guys don't realize how many ticks I've gotten off of me over the years. I'm in the woods hunting in excess of 90 days a year and walking in the woods another 30 plus days. I got a tick off of me yesterday and 5 or 6 since September. The ticks are just part of the problem.
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