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Posted 12/28/2015 1:01 PM (GMT 0)
Is it normal to be stuck at 14 drops of Samento and Banderol in the AM and PM and not increasing for a month or more because of symptoms? When I was under 10 drops, probably around 6 or 8, my symptoms were milder and even days without symptoms. Now that I've reach a higher number of drops (14), my symptoms seem almost constant with no gaps in between.

It's just the brain fog is constant now, dizziness is usualy there of off balance feeling + swaying/bobbing so I'm not increasing my drops. Just sitting at 14 drops waiting for symptoms to go down or away. Should I still increase my drops even if I have symptoms instead of waiting for "improvement"?

I feel like I felt better when I took the herbs only once a day in the am but then I switched to twice a day at the beginning of November and have felt my symptoms everyday pretty much since doing that, where as before I had gaps of no symptoms and feelings of improvement when doing the drops once a day.
Posted 12/28/2015 1:14 PM (GMT 0)
The fact that you're dosing twice daily means that the bugs are getting "shot at" twice daily. This means that more toxins (ala dead bug parts) are in your body....which means symptoms can get worse if you're unable to increase your detox to compensate for it all.

We won't necessarily feel improvements but, it's a good idea to make sure we return to our baseline symptoms before increasing doses. Eventually, the baseline symptoms become less and less.

While I'd need to check my symptoms journal for complete details, I know there was a time I was "stuck" on 8 drops each of the herbs I was taking for Babesia and Bartonella.

I'd try to increase but the increase in symptoms was more than I wanted to deal with at the time. This happened at least 3 times and I was eventually able to increase.

Are you able to increase your detoxing? If you are able to detox consistently....multiple methods every day and add something new every few days, you will eventually get over the hurdle and be able to resume increasing your dose.

Whenever I got "stuck", I'd review the detoxing suggestions in the link below and find something to add that inevitably helped:

www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

Hope you feel better soon!
Posted 12/28/2015 1:33 PM (GMT 0)
If you were feeling improvement but no herxing at once a day dosage, I would go back to that for a month or so before trying to increase the dosage to 2x daily.

This is not a race, it's about feeling better. Julie (Buhner's associate) told me that low doses over long periods are as effective as higher doses over a short period. There is no need to herx (meaning increased inflammation). It isn't good for you.

Ditto on the detox recommendation.
Posted 12/28/2015 7:40 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah I know I really need to do more detox. Need to start my detox baths again.

I think going back to herbs once a day is a good idea. I felt better and noticed some improvements then. Once a day is what my LLND prescribed but I changed it myself to twice a day as per this forum. But I think the other way was working better for me. At least for now.
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