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Posted 1/2/2016 5:27 AM (GMT 0)
Hi!

I am having a rapid worsening that started half a day ago. I do not know what is this as I am in a middle of the treatment: doxycicline, azythromicin (6thweek).
I feel burning sensations (pins&needles) all over my body whit shaking and a general bad feeling. I woke up in the middle of the night like that and since I cannot sleep(here it is 6am right now).
I had this earlier once before the AB course, but at that time I suffered from serious campylobacter infection. I did not know if the cause was the campylo or the lyme at that time. My question is that can it be lyme symptom and if so, why is this rapid worsening/flare-up happening in the middle of ABx treatment? Thing started to improve by now I felt quite good, my symproms lessend, energy increased, and I started to feel myself better overall.
My fear is that campylobacter somehow persisted on my body due to the lyme and maybe it is resistant now to the azythromicin.
Any experiences, good advice? Thank you in advance!
Posted 1/2/2016 5:41 AM (GMT 0)
Sorry this is happening to you!
It's so difficult sorting it all out, isn't it?

I don't know anything about the campylobacter - is there a test to check?

Do you think it's possibly a herx?

I'm wondering if it's Bartonella coming to the forefront. Have you been diagnosed with Bart?
Posted 1/2/2016 8:54 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, I have borrelia, bartonella, and babesia along with yersinia and ebv.
As I read the literature, campylobacter isually does not persist in the body, it is only observed in individuals with serious immun deficiency (hiv, agammaglobulinemia, hypogammaglobulinemia). There is no good test for campylobacter as the stool culture is only positive in the first few weeks of the infection. For me this was the case.
Do you think bart could cause this? But doxy is good for bart isnt it?
Posted 1/2/2016 5:35 PM (GMT 0)
tetracycline (doxy) paired with a macrolide (zithro) does seem to have some effect on bartonella as Dr. MR in Seattle has it listed as one of this protocols. Not at the top of the list, though...so it's not what he considers his most effective one.
Doxy alone won't effectively treat bart.

I have talked to a couple peoplewho were suspected to have Bart...and they used a tetra/macrolide combo and healed...but they had their infections less than a year.

So, it could be bringing it to the forefront...stirring it up....perhaps causing you to herx. That combo may not get you to the 'end' ....as many use that combo while treating lyme and still have to get out the 'big guns' to effectively treat bart.

You could also add in some herbs for bart...and see what happens?
Posted 1/2/2016 5:57 PM (GMT 0)
You're 6 weeks into treatment, the perfect time for a person to herx on Lyme treatments. Lyme can very much be the cause of the burning nerve pains.

What are you doing for detoxing? That would almost certainly be a huge help. You can also try adding in Lion's mane for myelin sheath support:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12675022

www.livestrong.com/article/509385-lions-mane-mushroom-for-nerve-damage/
Posted 1/3/2016 2:42 AM (GMT 0)
7 weeks into Lyme treatment (last week) I began experiencing what I thought was maybe itchy skin, but I kept thinking it felt like my nerves were on fire more than my skin, and yes it feels like pins and needles. Reading further on this forum helped me to understand maybe it's neuropathy. It's subsided a bit, I'm not sure if it's a herx or bartonella (no dx for this, but symptoms that I'm suspecting are related), but it drives me mad. I kept looking for hives, rashes. But, then realized its nerves not my skin. I think it's been a little better the past few days.
Hope you feel better soon!
Posted 1/4/2016 12:35 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for the replies!

Unfortunately the worsening did not stop. This night was the worse. Now there are numbness and shooting pains, sweats, and low body temperature along with the symptoms I wrote earlier (burning nerves/skin etc.).

I always do infrared sauna every 2-3days, but since this campylo infection came up (2 months ago) a stopped this as it made these symptoms worse. I tried it last night, but it was not a good idea. I drink cowden detox herbs, and take molybdenum, and liposomal glutathione too.

Do you think could this still be a bert herx that comes from almost nowhere and hits like this? If so, when is this expected to resolve?

Traveler, thank you for the links, I will try this out!
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