Update on LLMD appt on Tues

Saw my LLMD and had some interesting things to say. For those who know (and don't) been treating for the past 2.5 months on zithro/mepron/artimisiae and some biofilm protocol. Had exact regimen early on for same duration in Mar 2015. He thinks my Babs is under control and believes my chest issues are Bart related.

I started Cipro/Rifampin and a few new supplements L-Arginine, ACL, CQ10 and a Liver Detox. I"m also getting some blood work (CBC, Metabolic Panel, Lipids, TSH, T3 Free, Magnesium, Zinc, Ferritin, Vitamin A,D,B12, DHEA Sulfate and Iodine Serum) and MTHFR gene. I'm a bit skeptical that my Babs is contained as I'm still getting the weekly head flares but the chest issues which have been daily the last 2 months could be something else like Bart.

Thoughts on the above? I was ready to leave my LLMD for another but I'm more satisfied with the supplement additions and blood work. Thx.

I'm either sensitive or allergic to cephalosporins and sulfa drugs and I've been on macrolides for almost the whole time so trying a different class. We discussed tetracyclines and that might be up next.

I did Minocycline with Rifampin...

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Your Rif and Cipro combo sounds interesting. I too have been battling Bart or a bart-like organism for some time now. My current protocol since Sept is Cipro, tetra, and plaquenil. It's got me back to 90% and last month I started to pulse it 2 wks ON and 2 wks OFF.

Last year I was on Mino, Rif, and Plaq that knocked it down pretty good, but after I weaned down to only mino and then stopped all ABX in April, I relapse within a month or so. I tried Levaquin, but it hit my Achilles tendon pretty bad and had to stop. My main sx are mostly neuro and fatigue; with blood blister like rashes and spontaneous bruising when sx flare.

I think you need to treat Babs for a minimum of 4 months before switching. I first treated it for 4.5 months, then hit mepron again for over a year.

You may want to consider adding some of Buhner's core protocol items that work for both Babs and Bart, like Cat's Claw, Japanese Knotweed, Sida Acuta, and Cryptolepsis.

I've been on some anti-malarial for almost 9 months and nothing has shaken the head thing. The chest thing did go away for a while. Interesting thing is the head and chest symptoms are not at all correlated making me believe in part i'm dealing with 2 different infections. Not sure of course.

I'm 3 days into the new protocol and my chest issues have died down dramatically. Head issues are the same and even increasing. Too small of a sample but its all I got right now.

Hearing that chest symptoms overlap and bart and babs have a similar lifecycle makes it difficult to understand what you're dealing with unless you are taking stuff that confirms it by it getting better over time.

I tend to believe right now I have both babs and bart and the bart has been suppressed until recently now I'm pushing it back. Babs still hanging around. It's the Duncani strain which is particularly nasty to eradicate hence maybe the ongoing issues.

I'm taking Crypto and do want to add Sida back in but not for another week or two until the new regimen has a chance to settle in.