Detox And Buhner Herbs Arrived Today! - Please, A Little Last Minute Guidance?

Hi Everyone -

I want to start by saying I have been the question queen these past few weeks as I've been getting my plan together while some unexpected things happened - and I feel bad, because I recognize so many of those answering have their own health issues to deal with...I really appreciate your help, if I don't say thank you enough.

So the boxes of products arrived today.......and it was scary, but exciting at the same time.

I am about to make the transition from parasite cleansing for nearly 8 weeks (ADP oregano) into Buhner-land. Beginning SLOW (like one drop daily and wait a week) of the 3 core Lyme herbs. But I also ordered some of your recommended detox items, because I'm a thinkin' I will need them! I always hear Traveler in my head, "detox, detox, detox!!"

If you don't mind, I would like to tell you what I have now and ask a few questions, so you can send me on my way (trying to keep laughing through this, I picture you all taking my training wheels off after this post and giving me a big final push!).

Before I start, I do want to let you know I do recognize the importance of going slow with detox products and Buhner - I am highly sensitive so don't worry about that. Even a detox herb will be one drop to start, to be very safe.

#1 - I am, of course, wanting to start Buhner (herbs right in front of me, very tempting) but it sounds like some detox for a long time first, preparing their bodies for Buhner. Do you recommend this? For months I have done things like lemon water, milk thistle and charcoal on bad days. But I have a lot more detox products to add in now and I must do so slowly.

#2 - On a whim I snagged a box of Triple Leaf Detox Tea. Do you have a favorite detox tea and/or one you recommend as "the best?" I didn't do my homework on this one (again, on a whim) and would love to hear detox tea brands/blends that can help me (and how many cups a day you drink, please?).

#3 - The list below is now what I have at my disposal. The *** are products I've never tried, so must test them first. It is hard to comprehend taking the max recommended dose on all of these things at the same time eventually. If you are using various products, is it necessary? I know some are for different areas of the body, but I am really overwhelmed looking at all of these products, thinking I might be overdoing it (if there is such a thing?).

***Dry skin brush
***Triple Leaf Detox Tea
Lemon Water
Milk Thistle
Activated Charcoal
***Quercetin
***Gaia Dandelion Root
***Nutramedix Parsley Detox
***Nutramedix Burbur-Pinella (it is a blend) Detox
***Alka Seltzer Gold (keeping this on hand for bad herx times, but not planning to use daily)

#4 - And finally, I know it is a marathon, not a sprint...but I would certainly like to start the one drop trial of Buhner herbs as soon as I can. Working through all of the new detox products first, I think I will be in a nursing home by the time I get to Buhner, haha. Any helpful hints?

Thanks so much - I know this will be rough, but I am excited to at least be taking that first step in the right direction.

Have a great weekend...........Robin

Hey Robin

I was so reading my thoughts from months ago as I was reading your words lol And, no way, no how are you allowed to take your training wheels off without a promise to ask questions as you move forward.

20/20 Hindsight ruled much of my Lyme journey. For as many questions as I asked (and research I did), I should have asked more questions.

I've taken/am taking most of what you're planning....and then some. I'd have to sit down to add up all the other herbs/supplements I take. I'm blown away at some of the doses I take (and my supplement recommendations/doses came from those provided by ILADS co-founder Dr. Burrascano in his "Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines"). Others take more stuff than I do. No worries about your list :)

The items you listed are rather benign as far as causing herxes. You could probably add something new each day but definitely hold off on that if you experience an adverse reaction to something. Then you would wait until the adverse reaction passes and start the next thing.

If you want to start with something Buhner, I suggest Japanese Knotweed. It has numerous benefits which include protecting the body against neurotoxin damage.

I think you'll find the detox items and supportive herbs easier to titrate than the "killing stuff". Still, people sometimes have reactions to things and the only way to know which thing is the offender is by trying only one thing at a time.

Step by step we climb the mountain.

I forgot a couple things....

Many people on here swear by Yogi Detox Tea.

And, if you've been fine with milk thistle (I'm guessing you don't have a ragweed allergy), you might want to consider taking it twice daily. Our livers need a lot of help during treatments.

Buhner actually recommends a milk thistle dose I find quite high. My liver enzymes have stayed good throughout treatment so I don't think I need to increase my dose to what he recommends. And, as he repeatedly states in his book - his dose recommendations are just that. We each need to find what works for us.

cd3764 - that was JUST what I needed........every single word and every single topic you touched on - thank you so much! I feel so much better :) I will consider milk thistle 2xday - I feel I tolerate it well (which is a miracle because there is so little I tolerate well)...I am "gallbladderless" - yes, I invented that new word just now - so took it a lot before I ever dreamed that Lyme and/or parasite would become part of my vocabulary. Thanks for the tip on Yogi Detox tea, too....will definitely pick some up. The warmth of tea really helps me physically and mentally, so would love to add a recommended tea into my regimen.

Kathie - I am definitely wanting to try castor oil packs! It was on my to-do list, after the other to-do's were addressed. I have heard really good things about it. Thanks for reminding me. If you have any tips to share about what worked best/what didn't, I would love to hear about them. I have looked up the "parts to get" but have none of them in house....they are just a list of things to explore, but I don't know much more than that.

Thanks again everyone.......Here I go, training wheels off, down the sidewalk. If I wipe out immediately and fall on my head, I will definitely let you know :)

Oh I had such horrible heart issue that my first herbs were Hawthorn and Motherwort. But as soon as I could get started, Japanese Knotweed was my beginning one. It is still my favorite because I saw improvement right away with it. So I agree with cd completely.

I bought a heating pad on Amazon that gets VERY HOT. Many of the heating pads out there just don't cut it.
This heating pad heats up quickly. The switch must be held on continuously for it to work.
I tape the switch into the "on" position so I don't have to hold it while the castor oil pack is on...but you must be very careful not to fall asleep...you could be badly burned. (see reviews)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FGRSWW?keywords=battle%20creek%20heating%20pad&qid=1455965052&ref_=sr_1_11&sr=8-11

This is good:
http://wellnessmama.com/35671/castor-oil-packs/

I do it before going to bed. I have one of those large hospital plastic back underpads. I keep the castor oil pack in a plastic bag in the fridge (so it doesn't get rancid.) I place the well soaked flannel across my abdomen , put the underpad on top, and the large, hot heating pad over that. This pad gets so hot that I have to turn it off at times. I try to keep it on for at least 45" to an hour. When finished I put the castor oil pack back in the plastic bag, wipe my belly off with a towel I keep nearby. Sometimes I get up to wash and put the pack in the fridge but sometimes I'm so sleepy I just go off to sleep. I've never stained sheets or clothing using this method.

I had knee surgery recently. It still hurts but I don't want to be taking pain meds, so I've started putting this on my knee...it feels great!

Hope this helps. I think this is one of the cheaper methods of detox once you purchase the heating pad. The castor oil and pack can be reused for months.