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I'm aware of many members who have stopped antibiotics for a week or longer (sometimes as much as a year) to detox.

Thankfully, the bugs that cause these infections grow slowly.

I know a LLMD doctor in NC who's protocol is two weeks on antibiotics plus biofilm busters, and no minerals, then one week detox with clay, phosphatidylcholine, add in minerals, add in fiber and then repeat. She is very successful with her patients.

Thank you!

I have taken several breaks from my treatments (herbs and abx), periodically, as I just couldn't detox fast enough and was feeling too darn awful to keep them up (even at low levels). If you use that time wisely, to detox and build up your immune system you should go back into the 'fight' feeling stronger.

What all are you doing for detoxing, lynbrez?

That is a vital aspect of healing.

The whole reason we feel worse with treatment is due to the toxins created by the dead bug parts. If we don't clear those toxins, they are reabsorbed by the body and make us feel worse.

Everyone benefits from a daily detoxing protocol that involves methods that address all of the body's detoxification systems (liver, kidneys, skin, lymph, etc.)

Some detoxing methods are as simple as popping a supplement daily such as milk thistle, quercetin and/or curcumin. Stuff like burbur, parsley, pinella, red root are also easy to add. Just be sure to only add one detoxing method at a time (low dose) and slowly expand the protocol.

Sorry for the possible repeat but, here is quite the comprehensive list of detoxing methods:

www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

Cd3764...did you also feel awful during treatment?

"Can toxins make you have a quicker heart rate? And my left shoulder and chest hurt at times. "

Toxins and also the bacteria from the infections. Those are all symptoms of Lyme & co-infections.

My favorite detox link:
http://www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

I really recommend the Nutramedix herbs: pinella, parsley and burbur, or even just burbur does a lot.

When I first started detoxing after a full year on abx without detoxing even once, I was in serious trouble. Every single thing I did was either extremely painful or created a massive herx because I was so over loaded with toxins. I still got through it by moving very slowly, but I also understood just how important detoxing is to our healing - as in you won't heal without doing it. There are very, very few people that have these infections that can go through treatment without detoxing quite a bit without adding a lot of time to their treatments because of having to stop treatments so their body could detox.

You have to introduce them slowly. We can walk you through it. Just pick one you want to try adding it. Oil pulling is something that won't make any massive changes right away and it's really easy to add in.

Dry skin brushing is another really good one to add in because it won't make you herx, but will have an effect on two different detox pathways - the skin and the lymph system.

If you added those two thing in this week, you would be that much closer to finding the right amount of detoxing for your body, and there are more things that you can add in that won't cause you to herx. The key is to not try to add them in too quickly.

And yes, inflammation can cause a LOT of discomfort! Lyme is an inflammatory infection - meaning we have inflammation in between our cells, not to mention any swelling you may have that you can see.

If you aren't taking anything for inflammation, I suggest turmeric - or it's extract, curcumin - but if you get the curcumin, get it with pepperine (black pepper extract) in it as it makes it more effective according to the science. I just use turmeric.

Do you oil pull in the am? And turmeric do you use it in your foods?

Yes, I was sick 15 months before treating.

Since treatment, I have gotten rid of a lot of symptoms...but still have several that haven't budged. Unfortunately my worst one is still with me (Nerve pain left shoulder blade area/left arm/hand) and my nervous system issues are still with me. (I get vibrations in my body...and also shivers - often when I'm not even cold)

Yes, this infection IS horrible.

detoxing is a pain in the @zz,however,it seems when followed almost daily.....herxes are a bit "gentler".

Thanks Traveler....

I'm having a a horrible night😂feeling hot...muscle twitches...body aches. Could it be because I stopped the antibiotics? It's only been two days?!?!

This just sucks😂