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Posted 4/6/2016 5:13 PM (GMT 0)
I had my appt. with my LLND this morning.

We discussed a lot of things...well, I did most of the talking..I had a lot of ideas I wanted to bounce off him.
We agreed to wait another month and then discuss babesia treatment.

We discussed continuing bartonella treatment (been treating bart for several months now) - and he has supported my idea of pulsing M/W/F - two weeks on, one week off.
He doesn't believe this will increase chance of Bart becoming resistant to antibiotics.

He also supports my CBD oil treatment.

He wants me to add to my protocol: L-Arginine, L-Lysine, and Lavender oil.
It was at the end of my appointment...and I'm trying to remember why.
I believe the L-Argnine is to do with my brain. He mentioned Dr. Jernigan...does anyone know how L-Arginine works? He wants me to take 1500 mg twice daily.

What about L-Lysine - I don't have suspected EBV - I don't have fatigue...or cold sores...what else is L-lysine for? Again, he wants me on 1500 mg twice daily

Lavender - I think he wants this to calm down my nervous system. He wants me to take 80 mg twice daily...so I guess it comes in capsules..

In addition, I told him I was planning on doing a saliva hormone panel...from ZRT Labs (I had done a few pre-lyme diagnosis) - and he happens to have the kits...so will send me one...4X cortisol, dhea, progesterone, estrogen, testosterone.

He mentioned maybe bio-identical progesterone would help me. I did try it right after I was diagnosed...for about a month or so...i didn't really notice any changes...but an open to trying it again.
Posted 4/6/2016 5:30 PM (GMT 0)
okay - I think the L-Lysine is to counteract the L-Arginine feeding viruses (and reactivating an EBV outbreak) So, it allows us to safely take L-arginine.

From Dr. Jernigan's site: "The amino acid L-Lysine blocks arginine’s ability to feed viruses"
Posted 4/6/2016 5:38 PM (GMT 0)
L-Arginine suppose to help blood flow and improve nitric oxide levels to help athletes recover faster from work-outs. One side effect is it also helps both males and females with sexual issues.

It's covered in Buhner's myco and bart co-infections book and is part of the core protocol for both infections. He writes in more detail about it in the Myco section of the book. L-Citrulline is suppose to help it work even better.

I've recently added it to my bart protocol. I find the tablets are on the large side.
Posted 4/6/2016 5:39 PM (GMT 0)
Can you get a lavender plant? If you can all you have to do is rub your hands on the plant and then stroke your hands through your hair.

Rosemary is a good one to do like this also. When I was at work and it got stressful (just about everyday) I just stopped and went to the rosemary plants that grow wild up here.

As for ingesting lavender, all I know about is Calm Aid by Nature's Way.

If you are into flowers, Bach's Rescue Remedy is awesome. It is for immediate problems that pop up. Not for a long term lingering problem. It can be carried in your purse and just a quick shot in your mouth is great for impromptu anxiety.
Posted 4/6/2016 5:43 PM (GMT 0)
There is some evidence that Lysine can help cure CMV as well as other herpes viruses.

I'm so glad you are getting your hormones tested! I didn't notice much improvement when I started either, but the longer I'm on them, there are some small changes I do feel. It feels like it has a lot more to do with "prepping" your body to function better than it does relieving any symptoms really - at least if your hormones aren't too far off. This is only based on my own experiences though.
Posted 4/6/2016 5:55 PM (GMT 0)
Sounds like you had a productive appointment, Girlie!

L-arginine is also part of Buhner's Babesia protocol. He writes that some people have actually cleared the symptoms of their infections by taking just that....amazing.

Good luck!

(and that Bach's Remedy looks quite intriguing, PeteZa! thanks for sharing :)
Posted 4/6/2016 6:04 PM (GMT 0)

tickbite666 said...
One side effect is it also helps both males and females with sexual issues.

an added bonus, I guess??? :-)

PetZa - My husband killed our lavender plant...he bonsai'd all our shrubs in the back planter...and went a little crazy on the lavender plant..it never recovered.
My LLND wants me taking 80 mg capsules of it...so I need to do more than rub it in my hair...me thinks.
We've had Bachs Rescue Remedy in our home for many years...it's my husband's go-to remedy for stress.
The thing is, I don't really have anxiety....I get a little pang when I awake in the middle of the night with a bit of sweating...but other than that, I feel pretty good - mood wise.
My nervous system - seems to be on overdrive - separate from how I feel - mood wise. Trying to get rid of the shivers/adrenaline rushes that seem to be stuck 'on'.

Traveler - I am leery of the estrogen - because prelyme diagnosis - when it was discovered my female hormones were low...I did a trial of it...and that is when my vibrations started...was told to increase (I had started very low) and when I increased they got worse. I did have the transdermal bio-identical estrogen...it could be just a co-incidence...but it really freaked me out.
It was a almost a year later when I gave the bio-identical progesterone cream a try on it's own - as my progesterone was even lower than estrogen....so was trying to reverse the estrogen dominance.
Posted 4/6/2016 6:07 PM (GMT 0)
So, can I get these from the local health food store...or order from Amazon any brand?

- L-arginine
- L-Lysine
- Lavender capsules

Also am thinking of buying Artemisinin. - Allergy Research Group brand.

Maybe i should start a new thread on brands of these supplements.

Am also considering taking ginger capsules - to increase my body temperature...as I'm quite cold a lot....a friend (non-lyme) - said it made a big difference for her.
Posted 4/6/2016 8:17 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...

What about L-Lysine - I don't have suspected EBV - I don't have fatigue...or cold sores...what else is L-lysine for? Again, he wants me on 1500 mg twice daily

L-lysine is important for our skin, collagen and connective tissue, it also helps to retain normal bone structure and muscle function. Maybe your doctor want to give an extra support to those tissues.
Posted 4/6/2016 8:29 PM (GMT 0)
I think I answered my own question in a previous post above:
"From Dr. Jernigan's site: "The amino acid L-Lysine blocks arginine’s ability to feed viruses"

I think he wants me to take the L-Lysine so that the Arginine doesn't re-activate any viruses that I may be harboring...

cd - thanks - yes, it was productive....and that's one supplement I have not tried thus far - L-Arginine.


Lavender capsules seems kind of weird, though.
Posted 4/6/2016 8:30 PM (GMT 0)
yes, you're right, I didn't see you write that, sorry
Posted 4/6/2016 8:33 PM (GMT 0)
Added bonus, blueberrymuffin - if it helps my collagen/skin. I've lost it all off the backs of my hands...I look to be about 80 years old....if you look at my hands.... shakehead
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