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Posted 5/2/2016 9:17 AM (GMT 0)
Hi, I was just diagnosed with Lyme and co-infections and candidia in September of 15. I think I could have had Them all for a minimum of two years up to 8 years. I am seeing a LLMD who only uses antibiotics and antifungals for candidia. Right now he is hitting the Babesia hard and to be honest I feel like I am going to die. I have gone on a 3 day break and I still feel horrible.

Due to my brain fog, I feel it's impossible for me to do adequate research. I've tried and haven't found any current information. If someone could give their opinions on the following questions I would be so appreciative.

1) Which is better to purchase a GB4000 or a Doug Coil? Is there a better machine?
2) Can you still take antibiotics and use the machines?
3) If you can use antibiotics and the machines could mY body deal with the herxes?
4) Also thinking about purchasing an infrared sauna, would using this be too hard on my body?

Thank you so much. I feel so overwhelmed and sick I need direction.

Post Edited (Laker7491) : 5/2/2016 5:40:19 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/2/2016 12:49 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry you're having such a tough time!

I don't think I'd add any new treatments until you get your current herx under control (that's what's happening when you feel like you're going to die)

Did your LLMD talk to you about detoxing at all? (we've found that even some of the best LLMD's don't emphasize it enough).

You see, the bugs release toxins as part of their normal life cycle and that's what drives our symptoms. When treatment kills those bugs, the toxin load increases significantly - especially with Babesia treatment since Babesia parasites are the largest bugs that infect us. Larger bugs = more toxins = bigger herxes.

Here's some info about toxins and our symptoms:

www.benbrew.com/lb/lyme5.pdf

I provided the above link as backup for my comments - no need to read it unless you require that. I understand how brain fog/feeling overwhelmed can make it difficult.

What I do hope you're able to read is this link on detoxing:

www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

And, I hope you'll consider slowly starting a daily detoxing protocol and slowly add to it. Here's a link to a recent thread wherein members shared what they are doing for detoxing:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3602759

While I'm not familiar enough with rife machines to give you advice about one per se, I can tell you that people herx from that type of treatment....and that's why I suggested detoxing first.

Infrared sauna is a great method for detoxing since you sweat out toxins.

Things will get better - hang in.
Posted 5/2/2016 4:37 PM (GMT 0)
Laker, I am not familiar with the doug coil at all but it has been discussed on here many times.

I suggest using our search feature.

Under the Join HealingWell button on the top is a search box.

If you put in the search box -- lyme doug coil -- you will find discussions regarding it.

When using the search box always put lyme in the box or you will search all the boards on HealingWell.
Posted 5/2/2016 6:28 PM (GMT 0)
Gb with mopa is a plasma device .doug is a high voltage device....the doug heats up fast and only goes to 2000 hz...the gb with the mopa is wayyy better that contact ,also i have heard good thing about spooky 2 ..it is computer controlled so it may be a little complex...yes people take abx or herbs and rife ..it is like to pulse ...also for coinfections not sure ..some swear by it
As for infarred ..yes it will help detox...some do mhbot too but a little infared will help to move toxins ..i was debating too because price of gb mopa ,one can get spookyplasma and a doug setup
Posted 5/3/2016 12:50 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks so much everyone! I do many of the detoxes listed and will check out ones that I haven't heard before. This time with the treatment for Babesia I didn't get much relief from any of them. I stopped taking the medication for two days and that seemed to help some. As with everyone, I just want to get thru this as quickly as I can. I hate the thought of losing another summer being sick.

Blessings to all.
Posted 5/3/2016 1:07 AM (GMT 0)
Be glad if your sentence is not for life. ..rule of healing 1 month -3months for every year sick....so im in for a long haul..project had a post while back re spooky2..to quote jordan the ranger ...do it all"...my llnp said throw everything in the book at it ...herbs bvt rife hbot silver abx phage ,photons homopathic .do it all

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 5/2/2016 7:10:56 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/3/2016 1:55 AM (GMT 0)
I'd add Spooky2 to your list to evaluate.

I think the new Spooky Central plasma system is the most advanced machine out there. Once you master the software interface it is very configurable, allowing you to choose any carrier frequency instead of the fixed carrier with the GB4000. I use a program that creates a carrier that is a harmonic of the original killing frequencies which is much more effective - see Anthony Holland's work on 11th harmonic.

The GB4000 is a solid system, definitely has a good track record as does the Doug Coil. The Doug coil is much more limited but good at what it does. I'd say the Doug Coil is like a spiked club, GB4000 is the battle tested AK47, and Spooky Central is like an F16. A lot more tech in it but there is a learning curve.
Posted 5/3/2016 2:05 AM (GMT 0)
Ive been doing an ozone sauna that last six weeks and it feels like its a much stronger detox than my infrared. Also seem to kills off the bugs If you haven't looked into ozone you should-IV and sauna.
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