What is the REAL cause of our weakened immune system?

I have a lot on my mind today. I'm just really wondering what weakens our immune systems in the first place? Is it because of the toxins in the world? Is it our stress levels? What makes one sick and the other one fine but yet exposed to the same infections and toxins? I'm just really wondering how we got here in the 1st place.

Probably several things.
digestions is a big one
heavy metals-chemicals
parasites
dental
food allergy
The good news is all of the above is reversible-me I work on the entire list

I agree with magoo. You really have to look at all those things. To address them can only help our immune system deal with Lyme. Then detox like heck to help your body get rid of those. Really, these are things that even healthy people should look at for preventative measure.

What do you mean relapse? I thought that once you heal, you heal. Unless of course you get bit again or it is sexually transmitted? Now I'm really confused.

Remember stress is not just emotional. Stress can be from drinking too much alcohol. Eating too much cake. Exercising way over the limit.

Stressing the immune system is not just "oh, I'm upset." Any fight or flight is stressful yes, but so is anything that is done in excess.

Gosh, there are times when I am in traffic that I know I am angry and that anger is hurting my body.

Buhner does recommend it if you are going to use it as a preventative.

What is missing on this thread is not all immune systems are of the same quality so to speak just like some people are healthy and strong and others are frail and weak all other things being equal. Sure externals have an impact on achieving an optimal immune system but optimal for one may equal half as strong in another. This I believe is the biggest unknown factor on why some can be asymptomatic and others can be on death's door and where research should really be done

Yes I was negative on the methylation also.

Rikky1 said...
What is missing on this thread is not all immune systems are of the same quality so to speak just like some people are healthy and strong and others are frail and weak all other things being equal. Sure externals have an impact on achieving an optimal immune system but optimal for one may equal half as strong in another. This I believe is the biggest unknown factor on why some can be asymptomatic and others can be on death's door and where research should really be done

I, too, wholeheartedly agree.

I have been giving this a whole lot of thought over the past few months.

I believe everybody around me in Northeastern NY has probably been exposed to borellia burgdorferi. I've done 6 Igenex WB tests on symptomatic friends and family members...and they were ALL positive. (Not Igenex positive, not CDC positive, but all had at least an indeterminate on a BB specific band). We know that Dr. Horowitz says that anyone with a positive WB band with symptoms has Lyme.

I started to feel sick about 3-4 years ago. This was during an extremely stressful time in my life...emotional stress, work stress. When I finally consulted with a ND in 2014, she diagnosed me with adrenal fatigue. I don't doubt that I had adrenal fatigue, but it was more than that, and I knew it. My symptoms became worse over the next couple of years.
Prior to this episode, in 2006, after a knee replacement, I had made some major life changes...quit my job and became self employed, left an unhappy marriage, started eating a very healthy diet, exercised regularly and meditated daily. I felt better than ever.

I'm wondering now if I had Lyme back way back when (before 2006) which could have caused lyme arthritis, which led to the knee replacement. (48 is awfully young to need a knee replacement!) I also had other medical issues that resolved when I began eating right and exercising regularly. Maybe I had Lyme for many years, but the progression was interrupted by my lifestyle changes...? One of the LLMD's I listened to recently says that taking a careful history is VERY important, because many of his patients had Lyme years before they became so sick (he spoke about a patient who was treated for "ringworm" as a child...he says it was probably erythema migrans, not ringworm).

One of my favorite authors/speakers is Gabor Mate'. He was an internal medicine doc who worked with addicts in Vancouver's downtown eastside. He speaks and writes about the stress/disease connection and why certain types of people get ill. His work is fascinating.

I believe that a big part of healing is learning to love and care for ourselves. Most of us who live in this culture have a history of trauma and abuse, if Gabor is to be believed (and I do believe this). A big part of healing work is spiritual, IMO.

This is a great thread! My husband and myself are a perfect example. I was never CDC positive, yet was a wreck 2 years ago with a long long list of symptoms. My husband WAS CDC positive, and had one numb toe!! that was it!!! BUT then a year later, a few symptoms did pop up with him, and then went away again.

Honestly, in my opinion, in this world, no matter how emotional things can be, the BIGGEST daily factor that contributes to stress is Lack of Sleep - we just don't get enough, we all work too hard and don't rest enough (I can't remember the last time I slept in, except when I had the flu!).

another factor - antibiotics. I truly believe those who had taken antibiotics alot during their lifetime weakened the gut flora (like me), many have candida and don't know it - I had Candida and didn't realize it, and that is what I believed what pulled me down under!

another biggie - PH imbalance due to diet. Lyme likes acidic environments - so those who eat sugary and acidic foods have more of an acidic PH which in turn allows lyme to thrive (me again!).

and to answer the million dollar question of the weak vs the strong ever so slightly - I am pretty sure that genes do play a role in this. If you did genetic testing on a weak person vs a strong person - something will show up somewhere. There has to be a link. Some kids get sick over and over again as infants, and others don't get a real sickness until they are 3. yes, their surroundings play a role, but I do believe genes play a role here too. Also, if you made a list of their ways of life, eating habits, environments they are exposed to, etc....you will see a difference. Doing the right amount of exercise, getting enough sleep, and eating the right foods are all vital - and I know too many people who don't exercise at all, don't get enough sleep, and eat whatever - even those I know who have diabetes still eat cakes and cookies! nothing stops them!

Finally - vaccinations. Vaccinations weaken the immune system. Some people are just walking thru life, get a flu vaccine, and BAM Lyme comes out. Many people forget about this, and don't realize there is a link. Soem people have lyme, don't know it, get a vaccination, and get worse......My kids had lyme too. My youngest was due to get her Hepatitis shot - and my instincts told me to wait longer (we stall all of our kids' shots for as long as we can) - her LLMD said that was the best call I ever made, bc had she gotten that shot, she would have been much sicker than she was.

just my two cents! =)

I am feeling the same way about vaccines now. I was a nanny and the H1N1 was going around and the woman I worked for paid for my flu vaccine. I told her I have never had the flu. She could not believe that. I got the dang shot but never again.