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Posted 5/30/2016 6:21 AM (GMT 0)
Anybody have experience with this for babs or other blood parasite? Thanks dosage? Pulsing ? Etc
Posted 5/30/2016 4:36 PM (GMT 0)
I thought it was for diarrhea.

Obviously, I have no clue. lol
Posted 5/30/2016 5:21 PM (GMT 0)
It is for Babesia. I have a subscription for Dr. MR website but he doesn't say how long to treat with it.

I will check my information later...and see if I have anything on Alinia. Don't have the time right now....but will later.
Posted 5/30/2016 6:19 PM (GMT 0)
I pulsed it with Biaxin and Rifampin for Bart. It was very successful. I know others have had similiar combinations.
Posted 5/30/2016 7:04 PM (GMT 0)
jrpsf - Thanks for the info
Were you taking it for Bart....or to go after Babesia while you were treating bart?

Dr. MR says 500 mg twice daily. Is that the usual dose prescribed?
Posted 5/30/2016 7:08 PM (GMT 0)
I checked my emails..and somebody I email with was taking it at 500 mg twice daily, too...
Posted 5/30/2016 8:07 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks girlie ,jrpsf...i am just starting trying to work up to that dose ...it is intense stuff...does it impact bart too? Or we just dont know ...

pza it does have effect on giardia which is a protozoan too and 1/3americans have that . I am using the india variety but so far so good ...i wonder if it any less carcinginic than tinidazole . Llnp says its for cystic form

what does marty say it hits?

Jrpsf how long did you pulse it for ,? What was your schedule of dosing ?
Posted 5/30/2016 8:31 PM (GMT 0)
Dr. MR has it listed in his Babesia protocols.

He said the Canadian Alinia isn't as good though...so not sure if I will go that route.


I wonder what 'class' of pharma it is.

I have just discovered that LLND's can't prescribe malarone or mepron where I live...so wondering if there are any Babesia treatments (besides Artemisinin) that are in a different 'class' that I could get prescribed.
Posted 5/30/2016 8:41 PM (GMT 0)
Girlie I've most commonly seen Alinia used for treating Bart not Babs. Regardless of that if it work who cares what you are taking it for.

I took 500 mg twice a day but when I just took Alinia I found it didn't do much except cause hair loss....now that was after a few months of taking it with other abx's so don't let that scare you as I wasn't anywhere near to having bald patches etc. Just was noticing that when washing my hair substantially more hair was in the drain.

I felt that the alinia was much more effective when combined with the other abx's.

I pulsed the alinia 20 days on and 20 days off with Biaxin and rifampin, taking no breaks on the other two drugs.
Posted 5/30/2016 8:55 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks jrpsf. Oh, I didn't know Alinia was used to treat bart.

Any idea whether it's a different class of drug than the mepron?
Posted 5/30/2016 10:05 PM (GMT 0)
Girlie-From Google-Mepron is a medication that interferes with the reproduction of protozoa (single-cell organisms) that can cause disease in the body. Atovaquone is used to treat or prevent pneumonia caused by a fungal infection called Pneumocystitis carinii.

Alinia- is used to treat diarrhea in adults and children caused by the protozoa Giardia lamblia. Nitazoxanide is also used to treat diarrhea caused by the protozoa Cryptosporidium parvum. These conditions are also sometimes referred to as travelers' diarrhea.

Alinia's usage is very singular. That's why I said I beleive it needs to be paired with other abx's to be effective. If you look on WebMD or sites like it Alinia has virtually no side effects. There's usually a huge list of precautions and side effects.

When I took my combination I had major nerve burn/bart symptoms. I stopped because it brought on such crazy heart palps and I didn't know then what I know now about Bart and heart palps. I was worried it they were from the Biaxin it it was long Qt syndrome.
Posted 5/30/2016 10:43 PM (GMT 0)
Wow ..thanks jrpsf
i already have hair loss, but what good is my luscious locks if i keep losing my flesh and my mind .i am on rocephin and zith , and just swapped tini for alinia
got super emotional and twitches came back some .no heart stuff but tinnitus is louder (could be the zith)

Girlie i got a pm from someone saying they found it very effective not sure on what but that the herx was unreal,like lucy in the sky with diamonds. I was also told it is the same packaging from india as the states. My llnp swears by it and my art practioner said she felt amazing but warned of chasing flukes to liver is what dr k found out...sounds like its in its infancy

i am having another weird symptom since iv stuff of my finget pads getting wrinkled like if i was in the bath to long.. . I tried to hydrate today with a silver n saline and the shriveled like old person ..weird ..i may make another post ..this disease is bizarre ,night marish and downright scary...i wanna wake up and it be just a bad dream...any one else wanna be a guinea pig? Or have testamony of this weirdly pricy newish drug?
Posted 5/30/2016 10:43 PM (GMT 0)
So, you think you had a bart herx - that was causing the palpitations?

How long did those last? yikes - must have been scary!
Posted 5/30/2016 10:52 PM (GMT 0)
At first I thought it was anxiety. My son was flying to New Zealand and I discounted the palpitations as my being nervous he was going so far away. After about two days I realized that was illogical since I wasn't at all nervous about his trip. I pulled out my blood pressure machine and my bp had gone nuts. It was 101/160 with a resting pulse of 105. I emailed my LLND and stopped the Biaxin. Like I said if I only knew as much now as I did then I would have continued that protocol as I'm still dealing with Bart issues.
Posted 5/30/2016 11:38 PM (GMT 0)
Darn bart ... i think he is the one causing most of my grief...how do i kill this stuff without killing me...i have rifampin i just dont know where how to fit this in my candida is getting bad too...i think my finger pad thing is bp related too i am on a high sodium diet but it will not climb into normal ranges .
Posted 5/30/2016 11:44 PM (GMT 0)

bluelyme said...
Wow ..thanks jrpsf
i already have hair loss, but what good is my luscious locks if i keep losing my flesh and my mind .i am on rocephin and zith , and just swapped tini for alinia
got super emotional and twitches came back some .no heart stuff but tinnitus is louder (could be the zith)

Girlie i got a pm from someone saying they found it very effective not sure on what but that the herx was unreal,like lucy in the sky with diamonds. I was also told it is the same packaging from india as the states. My llnp swears by it and my art practioner said she felt amazing but warned of chasing flukes to liver is what dr k found out...sounds like its in its infancy

i am having another weird symptom since iv stuff of my finget pads getting wrinkled like if i was in the bath to long.. . I tried to hydrate today with a silver n saline and the shriveled like old person ..weird ..i may make another post ..this disease is bizarre ,night marish and downright scary...i wanna wake up and it be just a bad dream...any one else wanna be a guinea pig? Or have testamony of this weirdly pricy newish drug?

I'm not sure what you mean about the same packaging from India as the States? Are you referring to me saying the Canadian Alinia isn't as good? Dr. MR - said it has to be compounded in Canada...so not sure why it isn't as good.

My finger pads are wrinkled too...for a long time now...and often with that I have lines down the length of my fingers - from the pads to the palm.
Posted 5/30/2016 11:50 PM (GMT 0)
bluelyme-the thing that I've found to be most effective getting the infections out of my heart and brain is IV ozone. The only downside to it is the cost. I needed to find a lower cost reliable location so I haven't gone in about 5 weeks. I start at the new location (which is half the money for a double run) on June 8th. It made a huge difference. During the free online lyme summit it was stated that for persistor bacteria ozone and ir sauna have been effective were abx's and herbs have not.
Posted 5/31/2016 12:01 AM (GMT 0)
I might try the IR sauna...was just at an open house for a health clinic and they have one there.
I can't remember what it costs.

I wonder if once every two weeks would be worthwhile (I couldn't do more often - it's 45 minutes away ...and can't really afford it)
Posted 5/31/2016 12:09 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for that info i have a sod mutation and get really tired after iv ozone ? if not done right it can clog up the port too. But i may try again ..this new guy has some crazy euro ozone machine ..insurance is covering the baby doses ...just got plasma rife but i dunno ... i feel like eeore ...a little more blue...also there is the whole intercellular bugs ... i was stoked the bee venom got them out of blood stream but when i cracked open a rbc under the microscope there was a kete and a little tiangular dancing thing one duc said it was toxoplasmosis but could be proto or even babs .got some giemsa stain so im gunna check it out myself .

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 5/30/2016 6:14:15 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/31/2016 12:59 AM (GMT 0)
The euro (German) machines are what's being used in my area for IV ozone.

Girlie if you try ozone sauna and think it helps you are better off financially buying a unit from Longevity resources. They are in BC and have by far the best reputation. You'll save a fortune.
Posted 5/31/2016 1:13 AM (GMT 0)
jrpsf - I know nothing about saunas though.
What are ozone saunas? Different from IR saunas?
Posted 5/31/2016 4:14 AM (GMT 0)
Girlie-sorry for the delay. I'll get back to you either later tonight or in the morning. My Sharks had their first Stanley Cup Final game and while they lost my by far favorite player scored so I'm good. They lost the first game of the last series by one and won the series so it's good....and The Warriors won their game 7 so onto the Finals. It was quite a night for Bay Area sports fans. Exhale

It's the positives that make this journey doable.
Posted 5/31/2016 4:47 AM (GMT 0)
lol - jrpsf - I'm reading your last post...and my husband is watching the game (previously recorded) - I better not tell him who won and ruin the rest of the game for him...

My husband is surprised that the Penguins are doing so well with the team they have.


No problem, I'm in no rush for the info.
Posted 5/31/2016 5:27 AM (GMT 0)
Ya girlie i was making excuse for being cheap but my llnp was eatibg the same alinia in green package...are you talking hockey?
Ozone and ir saunas are very different . One uses steam and ozone and may do some killing by heat and oxidation. The ir is just infra red..but i did hear big commercial one can get ya sweating ina few min....my home one takes like 25 min.
I was told it can make urine green...so i chuckled when thought of rifampin turning it red orange. What color would it be on both?
Weird finger stuff i think is sodium channels or hpa axis with hydration regulation..bet ghunter knows...
i heard it does have antiviral properties and is effective if tolerated...one said it was nastiest supa herx from hell. Im am super emo and confused still eating it
Posted 5/31/2016 5:41 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, was talking hockey.

Sharks vs Penguins

The alinia can produce green urine? hmmm green plus orange - that would be an ugly color I think.


I start my third round of Artemisinin - I think the day after tomorrow - will have to check my records...

I am hoping for an identifiable herx. Need to know I'm feeling crappy right now because I have babesia...if not...don't know why I'm feeling so crappy.
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