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Posted 6/15/2016 3:38 PM (GMT 0)
Started Nutramedix Houttuynia on Saturday, started with 1 drop twice daily and increased 1 drop per day. Felt something happen from first day ... often get cramp in my right calf and have had lots of tingling and strange sensations in that area particularly during the night.

The vice like feeling round my head and jaw that had thankfully gone has returned although not as bad as it used to be and jaw and neck are popping and cracking a lot. Wondering if I should keep at 5 twice daily at moment instead of increasing by 1 drop per day and will keep on with it as it seems to hitting the spot and attacking the bacteria. The skin in my ears which has been a problem the last six months is slightly changing too but not sure if its making it better or actually worse.

I know this is a very potent herb and am interested to hear some other experiences.
Posted 6/15/2016 3:41 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't used it specifically, but I would generally wait a few days at least before adding in more drops. I usually let the herx subside a bit before increasing any herb dosage.
Posted 6/15/2016 3:50 PM (GMT 0)
I agree with Mustard Seed - don't raise it...until the herx subsides.

And..if it doesn't subside...in a few days...you might want to even reduce your dose...and stay at the lower dose for a bit before trying to raise it agin.

and..you know the drill...about detox. :-)
Posted 6/15/2016 9:08 PM (GMT 0)
You can drop back a bit with dosing until you aren't herxing. Herxing is uncomfortable and is the result of increased inflammation which is not good for the body.

When you decrease the dosage and stop herxing, you are still killing bacteria, but at a rate that your body is able to handle. The more you detox, the more capable you will be of killing bacteria and not herxing.

You don't need to herx to heal.
Posted 6/15/2016 9:24 PM (GMT 0)
"You don't need to herx to heal." Exactly.
Posted 6/15/2016 9:38 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you - I needed reminding of that I am tending to think the opposite and if I am herxing it means its good as I am killing off lots of bacteria, but actually yes its causing increased inflammation and that is harmful on top of extra 'dead' bacterial load. Decrease tomorrow and back to low and slow.
Posted 6/15/2016 11:40 PM (GMT 0)
Cool! I hope it works well for you!! Rowingmom is a very wise woman!
Posted 6/16/2016 2:30 AM (GMT 0)
I never herxed while healing. I saw herxing as a sign that I was not in balance. That toxins were being ahead of my body's ability to eliminate them.

I went a lot slower in my upping of herbs. I did 1 drop 3 times a day for about 2 days before I tested another drop to the equation.
Posted 6/16/2016 3:35 PM (GMT 0)
So today I haven't taken any houttuynia. I feel awful was awake a lot in the night with aches and pains and really bad GI pains and my ears and head just throbbing. My ears are full and I can't hear very well today and I feel like I have glass in cartilage of my ears if I try to smile. Not that I have such to smile about right now !! Feeling really emotional too. I hope this all recedes as I stop taking the herb. I plan to stop it for a while and then start VERY slowly and see what happens.
Posted 6/16/2016 3:45 PM (GMT 0)
Are you taking Japanese Knotweed? That taken over a course of time sure got rid of my ear, eye and head aches.

But, then some of my ear, head and neck aches I totally related to lymph backup. I was hurting so much that I did very little. Our lymph system has no pump and it is activated by movement. Jumping, swinging our arms or self massage.

I was so hurting I could not do any of those at first. I tried Red Root and it seemed to work but slowly. And then I did self massage -- oh my goodness. That was the ticket and it can be done anywhere, anytime.

I do not recommend doing it the 50 times as she suggests. But try a few and work up.

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA-wi0d7-Ro
Posted 6/16/2016 4:00 PM (GMT 0)
PeteZa - Thank you for the link to the massage, I did it but only a few of each as too sore to do more, but that will be a good one to work up to and do regularly definitely. Don't take JK or Cat's Claw been trying to heal myself on CBD oil, Wild Oil of Oregano and vitamins and of course detoxing. Will order JK and Cat's Claw. I am taking so many other things but those two are probably 2 of the most important herbs.
Posted 6/16/2016 4:07 PM (GMT 0)
I would also encourage you to add in more detoxing routines as well. You sound like your body is overloaded with toxins right now. I'm so sorry you are feeling so bad!!
Posted 6/16/2016 4:20 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you Traveler will step up the detox too. Cant find a supplier of JK in UK !! Is Reservatrol the same, there is a good source of this I can purchase at a good price on Amazon but can't seem to find JK, there is Bristol Botanicals but my laptop won't let me complete order, keeps saying there is virus with their site, maybe I should just give them a call and order. They have the JK tincture.
Posted 6/16/2016 4:23 PM (GMT 0)
One source of Resveratrol is Japanese Knotweed...but there are other sources...another one is red wine grapes...
You only want to get the JK.
Posted 6/16/2016 4:25 PM (GMT 0)
I am not traveler but Resveratrol can be used if you can't get JK. Just make sure it is from Polygonum cuspidatum. I had the best luck with the Paradise Herbs Brand. Not as hard on the belly.
Posted 6/16/2016 4:52 PM (GMT 0)
I agree with Denikeef - check and see the list of ingredients and make sure one is Polygonum Cuspidatum. I also find mine in Chinese medicine as Hu Zhang.
Posted 6/16/2016 5:50 PM (GMT 0)
I thought Polygonum Cuspidatum is the scientific name of Japanese knotweed.

Resveratrol is the active component...
Posted 6/16/2016 6:23 PM (GMT 0)
"Japanese knotweed, a large, herbaceous perennial plant of the knotweed and buckwheat family Polygonaceae." /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallopia_japonica

Synonyms: "Fallopia japonica (Houttuyn) Ronse Decraene; F. japonica var. compacta (J. D. Hooker) J. Bailey; Pleuropterus cuspidatus H. Gross; Polygonum cuspidatum Siebold & Zuccarini (1846), not Willdenow ex Sprengel (1825); Reynoutria henryi Nakai; Tiniaria japonica (Houttuyn) Hedberg."

eol.org/pages/585404/details I added the underlining for emphasis
Posted 6/16/2016 6:59 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks all, wondering whether to order this ........BART is a tincture containing the herbs Red Root and Japanese knotweed. Red root is a small deciduous shrub which is part of the buckthorn family. Red root helps to enhance the immune system. Japanese knotweed is rich in the biochemical transresveratrol. Not tried Red Root before and normally would rather try things separately for obvious reasons. Would appreciate feedback if anyone has tried it or knows anything more about it.
Posted 6/16/2016 7:02 PM (GMT 0)
I would not do that. If you have a problem taking that combo how will you know which herb gave you the reaction? That is why we do one herb at a time and at low doses. It is like testing the waters.
Posted 6/16/2016 7:07 PM (GMT 0)
Red root along helps move Lymph fluid along. I use it daily in my herbs.

The thing to remember with Red root is that it can also make a person's blood hyper-coagulate. If a person already has issues with this, red root may not be a good choice.

But I agree with PeteZa, if you have not used either of those herbs together before, please don't start a combo of herbs, especially if you have a tendency to herx fairly easily.
Posted 6/16/2016 7:14 PM (GMT 0)
Trans-resveratrol is the chemical form of resveratrol best absorbed and utilized by the body. While red grapes are high in resveratrol, it must be converted into trans-resveratrol in the body. Japanese knotweed contains mostly trans-resveratrol, making it the preferred source.
Posted 6/16/2016 7:17 PM (GMT 0)
I know you should be able to find J/K in powder form in the UK. You could make a tea or even make your own tincture. This is a very economical way to go. I quickly looked and I did not find a tincture of J/K in the UK, but I am not so good at looking for things in the UK, sorry.
Posted 6/16/2016 7:36 PM (GMT 0)
Going to ring order through to Bristol Botanicals in UK, they have the Hu Zhang tincture Polygonum cuspidatum.
Posted 6/16/2016 8:58 PM (GMT 0)
Perfect and good luck. I think you love the benefits of it. Just start low and go slowly.

And detox!! I can't leave that out.
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