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Posted 6/27/2016 6:51 PM (GMT 0)
Hi everybody!

I have a couple of questions about Byron White A-P (liquid herbal drops) for parasites.

Has anyone tried A-P?

Do you know what parasites it affects?

A couple of months ago, my LLMD wanted me to try Albendazole. This medication was for treating nematodes. She read an article that said 11 of the 11 brains autopsy from M.S. patients had nematodes. I was never able to try Albendazole, because it would have cost me $3,018 for one month of treatment!!!

I have also read a thread on this forum about nematodes having borrelia spirochetes. This was from Elena Cook, she posted an article about the study. I think that the study was done by Dr. Alan MacDonald?

If I remember correctly, my LLMD said that A-P will treat: Nematodes, lung flukes, tapeworm, mold, and Candida. I do know that mold and Candida are NOT parasites, but I think that some of the herbs help with these issues?

I have tried an internet search for A-P and I can't find information about what parasites it affects. I have also tried to look at the Lyme Disease forum "Search" (above) and didn't have any luck.

I have also stopped ALL antibiotics. Because we are trying to figure out why I am constantly having a rough time. I am Homozygous A1298C. And I feel like I have been constantly herxing since I started treatment for Lyme disease (February 2015). I'm still taking: thyroid meds, A-BAB, Detox1 (just started), A-Inflam, supplements, antifungals, and still detoxing daily like crazy!

So far, we figured out that my body is terribly inflamed. Which I know that lyme and overgrowth of Candida can cause this. The only thing that I have never herxed on was A-Inflam. This is the only thing that has helped me. I now don't stutter anymore.I wish the rest of my symptoms would leave also! :)

I guess, Ifee like I don't even know what I am fighting?

Thank You!
Posted 6/27/2016 7:30 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry - I use other BW tinctures but not the one for parasites. Very interested in how you do on it. Bumping for visibility.

I have also read about nematodes in the brain and yes, the article posted here was on MacDonald. A lot of herbal remedies have anti fungal characteristics.

I'm sorry you're struggling with so much. I had the same experiences when I first started treatment--I was trying to address everything at once and my body just couldn't keep up. I think it's great that you & your LLMD are taking a huge step back and figure out what the dominant burden on your immune system is and to focus on inflammation. My neurologist (very lyme friendly) said most of our sx originate from inflammation...

There are a few more possibilities to consider, WRT mast-cells and histamine responses, cytokine responses. Also, don't forget to look under "viral load" rock, too.

And, there are a TON of DNA mutations to consider - there are general categories with multiple conditions within each. Most MDs know only about the A1298C and the M667T. If you haven't already - I'd investigate the 23andme.com test and there are good programs online that interpret the data. This is a huge endeavor, really, but might be one you need to explore if your detoxing issues are extreme. There is a ton of info on the forum - or if you ask, you'll get some good responses from members.

Please let us know how things are going and what you're trying next - we're rooting for you.

-p
Posted 6/27/2016 7:36 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't tried A-P but am doing a bunch of other anti-parasitics now.

According to Brian Rosner the herbal anti-parasitics aren't as effective:

lymebook.com/ivermectin-albendazole-diethylcarbamazine-alinia-mimosa-pudica

Albendazole crosses the blood brain barrier. It can be ordered cheaply from overseas pharmacies. Alinia is another one that will cross the BBB.

Ivermectin isn't active in the brain but it's quite effective otherwise:

Ivermectin, 'wonder drug' from Japan: the human use perspective.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21321478

I've realized that not treating parasites is a massive gap in a lot of the commonly used Lyme protocols, including Buhner's.

For herbal options there is the combination of Black Walnut, Clove, Wormwood. I did herx off this when I took it, but not as much as from the pharmaceutical ones.

There is almost always a thread on this forum around the time of the full moon. Well if you read about parasites they are known to become active around this time. So attributing this to Borrelia might be incorrect.
Posted 6/27/2016 9:05 PM (GMT 0)
I just started a-p a few days ago. My new doc wants me to try it. I've treated with biltricide before and did humaworm cleanse. So far doing good with it, maybe a bit more tired. Adding a-l soon.
Posted 6/27/2016 9:17 PM (GMT 0)
I agree with project as this is a overlooked aspect ...borrelia can infect these nematodes and can reinfect us ...we just saw a filarial worm in my moms blood . Not sure if it is a ascaris or shisto or something else ...one practioner belives in rife for them but we gotta know what we are going for ...i hear your frustration little bear ..i heard abx in lyme is like trying to kill a snake with bugspray. I am about to try aome rediculus priced african herbs for blood parasite..they called it toxo but it may be proto...
Posted 6/28/2016 5:34 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Pirouette!-

Thank you for your response and bump! ;) I haven't started A-P yet. My LLMD had to order it and will be mailing it to me. I was just curious about other people's thoughts and experiences on A-P.

I did look into MCAD. My LLMD had me try : Zantac, Hydroxyzine, and Singulair. I took all 3 of these meds daily for almost 2 weeks. The only thing that happened, is that I got severely constipated. My LLMD said that I would have seen immediate results. She had a patient that showed great improvement in 2 days on this combination of meds.

I did read your thread about viral loads, and asked about that also at my last appointment. Because I have enlarged papilla (taste buds) on the base of my tongue (back by my throat). We decided to try parasites first, but will keep this in mind again for next appointment. Thank you for starting that thread. A lot of great information and I saved it to favorites!

After I got tested for MTHFR, is when I saw more people here posting about being tested through 23 and me. I got ticked off, because this is the way I should have went. I will see how things happen with the parasite cleanse and stopping antibiotics. Maybe in the future I will have this done.

Best Wishes!


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Hi project!-

Thank you so much for posting links for me to read more about parasite! And meds that are affective for treatment. Did you stop Lyme and co's treatment for now also? Or are you still treating Lyme, co's, with the parasite treatment? Are you noticing a difference with treatment for parasites besides herxing? Are any of your symptoms better or gone? Have you seen any parasites come out of your body while treating? Sorry for all the questions, just wondering:). I wish you the best of luck through this treatment and please keep us updated as to you are doing on it. Thank you!

Best Wishes!


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Hi k07!-

Thank you for your response! Are you treating parasite, Lyme, and co's all at once or did you take a break from Lyme treatment? I am happy to hear that you are doing good with using A-P! I hope that it continues and that the fatigue doesn't get any worse. Please keep us updated if the A-P helps with any of your symptoms.

Best Wishes!


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Hi bluelyme!-

Thank you for your response! I also agree with you and project. I have brought up about parasites the last couple of visits with my LLMD. I feel like something is "blocking" my ability to detox properly and healing from Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella, and Candida.

Is a filarial worm a type of parasite typically found in person with Lyme? Does your Mom have Lyme disease also, or other health issues?

Ha Ha Ha! Frustration doesn't even come close to describing this health mess I am in. I am starting to wonder if antibiotics are not for me. I have tried so many different combinations and only have felt worse on them. I guess that I just kept telling myself that it was because I went misdiagnosed for 27 year so it will be rough.

I hope that the African herbs for blood parasites will help you! Please keep us updated with this treatment.

Best Wishes!
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