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Posted 7/15/2016 1:15 PM (GMT 0)
looks like they are going to begin Iv antibiotics for my neuro-lyme issues next week.....have been taking both japanese knotweed and cats claw, which have blood thinning properties....anyone have experience with doing both at the same time, or should i stop the herbals now before they put in picc line? any feedback would be greatly appreciated
thanks
dave
Posted 7/15/2016 4:01 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Dave -

I think this is a good question and probably a personal decision. Lyme & co generally makes blood a little more coagulated (although I have not had much issue with that). And to keep your PICC line clear, you will be given heparin block to inject with each infusion, which is also a blood thinner.

I am currently on high doses of JK and I take other herbs (some which may also have thinning agents) AND infuse heparin 4x per day and have had no issues with too much thinning.

You might just have to test it out. If/when you get blood drawn for lab work, ask nurse/phlebotomist if consistency/color looks normal. I think you can also have labs drawn to verify you don't have too much thinner.

-p

Post Edited (Pirouette) : 7/15/2016 10:16:32 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/15/2016 4:03 PM (GMT 0)
Dave you really should be asking your doctor this. And your doctor should be aware of the herbs you are taking.

My doctor said NO herbs at all 2 weeks prior to surgery. He did not care what herb it was, he said NONE.

I could not even eat garlic, ginger, vit E or ginkgo biloba. Those are the ones I remember.

Just saying that there are foods that also thin the blood.
Posted 7/15/2016 4:08 PM (GMT 0)
If your doctor has tested your coagulation time (called Prothrombin time), they will know just how quickly your blood is coagulating and if you should be using something for thinning the blood or not.

This is a serious situation in which your doctor very much needs to be aware of all that you take because of the PICC line.
Posted 7/15/2016 4:29 PM (GMT 0)
thank you all for your input

im just thinking ahead,havent met with the infectious disease dr yet, but my dr who is referring me told me it was likely they would do IV as im having alot of neuro symptoms (no focus,brain fog, fatigue, memory issues, sore neck)...so I was thinking i should stop all supplements now, bc i know how buhner said stop blood thinning herbals 10 day before surgery...wasnt sure if IV was included as "surgery", although i guessed it probably was....will definitely share with the I.D. doctor...thank you all again
Posted 7/15/2016 4:32 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, it would be under the heading of surgery simply because during the insertion of the PICC procedure you could have tremendous trouble with too much bleeding.
Posted 7/15/2016 4:50 PM (GMT 0)
I also wanted to say that the help im getting from this board is invaluable...in the past 4 months my life has been thrown upside down, and maybe will never be the same, as I cant work in this condition...knowing that so many of you have gone through it and come out the other side to a degree makes it easier to accept...so thank you so much
Posted 7/15/2016 6:59 PM (GMT 0)
I'm so very happy to hear that we are being helpful to you - that's what we want!! We all got help from this community and are trying to 'pay it forward' since we have walked this path as well.

Keep asking those questions!! We are here to help when we can!
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