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Posted 7/29/2016 11:25 PM (GMT 0)
I take olive leaf extract, Bacteria Guard, bicillin and Protease enzyme in the morning. By 5 or 6 p.m., I am dead tired, more emotional and hurt in my right arm.

When I don't take them, I don't feel great, but much better. Is this a clear sign of a herx or could I be reacting to one of them later?

Thanks.
Posted 7/29/2016 11:52 PM (GMT 0)
I'm thinking you're dealing with a herx (sorry) and increased detoxing would help you to know whether or not that's correct.

The only other option I see is to take only one thing at a time and gauge reaction.

Not everyone herxes and those that do herx do it on all kinds of different "schedules". Everybody's body is different and responds differently to treatment.
Posted 7/29/2016 11:58 PM (GMT 0)
runningwild, Though I can't speak directly to what you are doing, it sounds like a herx to me. Did you start with minimal doses? If not I would cut back on the doses. I also think you need to increase detoxing.

If you haven't looked at this link yet, it can be very helpful. www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

Others will be along with their thoughts as well!
Posted 7/30/2016 12:04 AM (GMT 0)
Should add I had heart surgery June 23, which, I think, brought back out the Lyme. It had been good for more than 18 moths or so.

I was thinking about cutting back so I can still break up biofilm and/or cysts but not have as much in me, as Denikeef mentioned.

Just started back on bicillin shots today, as well. They helped first time around. But the herbs caused the fatigue and pain for weeks before the bicillin.
Posted 7/30/2016 12:35 AM (GMT 0)
I don't how much OLE you are taking and for how long, but that can be very strong herb for some. I agree perhaps cutting back would probably be a good thing.
Posted 7/30/2016 1:16 AM (GMT 0)
It may be the OLE. Seems when I take the Protease is when things really get crazy later. cd3764's point of trying one at a time is a good one. All of the ideas posted are and greatly appreciated. Having people who have "been there" make a difference. My cardiologist had no clue what I was trying to tell him concerning the Lyme, so I just let it go and got out of there.
Posted 7/30/2016 5:48 PM (GMT 0)
How's your detoxing protocol? Most of us don't do enough detoxing, and yet we must in order to be able to stay sane while healing. Here is a good list of possible detoxing routines that most of us use:
www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html
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