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Posted 8/1/2016 9:02 PM (GMT 0)
When you're increasing dosages, do you want to strive to herx or not to herx?

I'm just having a hard time figuring out where I need to be dosage wise. I want to know that I'm actually killing something, but I'd rather not be as sick as I have been when trying to up the dose.

I have tried several times moving from 14 drops A-L Complex 2x a day to 15 drops 2x a day. Each time I increase I end up herxing. Is that what we want or no? Normally the symptoms lessen with detox. Do I wait until I don't have a reaction to up the dose? Or do I up the dose and make sure to significantly increase detoxing at the same time?

Thanks.

Sincerely,
a confused lymie
Posted 8/1/2016 9:13 PM (GMT 0)
It is a good idea to stay right below that level of herxing. It sounds like 14 drops is the beneficial level for you.

What you could do is stay at this level for a few weeks and then try 15 drops again. Just be sure to detox. You should always be doing that to keep your body free of toxins.

The thing with Herxing is that it tells us the treatment is working but it is also hard on an already stressed body. We need to do everything we can to help ourselves heal without stress.
Posted 8/1/2016 9:18 PM (GMT 0)
To not herx. The goal is to do enough detox that you do not herx. Just because you do not herx does not mean that you aren't killing anything. The goal is to work to symptom relief not adding to the symptoms if you can help it.

Perhaps try moving up 15 drops, 1 x a day or better yet, 1/2 a drop and see how you do? If no, then your body may not be ready yet. Sometimes we get to our max and can literally not go any further.

But of course do all you can to detox and then some.
Posted 8/1/2016 9:18 PM (GMT 0)
The honest answer is yes and no. Sorry!

Herxing is a sign that the protocol is working - which is what we want, but it's not good for us because it's a sign that there are too many toxins in our bloodstream, and herxes can get so bad as to be very dangerous. So while low level herxing is okay, we need to work to stop the herxing, as it can escalate on us if we don't.

How are you doing on detoxing? Most of us (me included) don't actually do enough detoxing! That's one of the best ways to control herxing so you can either increase dosages or continue on in treatment. There are many different detoxing routines that you can incorporate into your daily routines, but it's important to make sure they are seen as important enough to make room in your daily routines too. We have a nice list in our "New to Lyme?" thread, and here is a link with more great ideas: www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

If you aren't sure about something, please be sure to ask!!! There are so many different detoxing routines that you can use, but there is bound to be someone here that is using it and can be of help!
Posted 8/1/2016 9:47 PM (GMT 0)
Traveler,

I don't do enough on a regular basis. Definitely guilty there. But a few that I have decided to make routine this week include Burbor and Pinnella 1-2x a day, dry brushing with contrast shower, activated charcoal/magnesium citrate flush, and epsom salt/lavendar oil foot soaks when I can. That would certainly be more than I normally do...which would be hardly anything until a herx occurs. How much are you supposed to do a day? I'm jumping from nothing to several things, so not sure what the "golden standard" would be. I'm also considering a lymphatic massage, and I get adjusted at the chiropractor 1-2 times a month.

Thank you for the clarification, Krimpet and Denikeef. :-)
Posted 8/1/2016 10:02 PM (GMT 0)
You want to do several every day....but don't implement them all at once...

Here's a list of some of what I do:

- minimum 8 glasses of water daily
- squeeze fresh lemon juice in some glasses
- epsom salt bath - almost daily
- dry brush before baths
- activated charcoal (almost daily - sometimes I'm lax and I don't fit it in)
- Burbur and Pinella - daily - sometimes several times when I'm herxing
- exercise - daily
- liver support - daily
- probiotics - daily

Alka seltzer gold - few times a week.
Posted 8/1/2016 11:35 PM (GMT 0)
Agreeing with Girlie on not adding in everything at once, as that too could make you herx. Take it slow and add in a new detox routine about every 3 - 5 days, depending on how well your body is adjusting. I would encourage you to hold off on the lymph massage until you get some more detox routines going. Lymph massages usually release more toxins into the bloodstream, and you have enough right now! LOL! We surely don't want you herxing any more!

How much? That all depends on how much help your body needs in removing those toxins. Everyone is different, but the goal is to keep symptoms at a low enough level as to not be impacted by them very much. Not everyone can get to that point quickly, but that's the goal.

This article might be helpful to read:
www.tiredoflyme.com/4-reasons-why-you-still-feel-bad-despite-detoxing.html

I have not had any of the gene mutation testing done, although I do seem to have the same kind of issues as those that do - so I figured it was best for me to assume that I did and work to get my body to detox much better. It took a lot of diet changes as things with my body changed, and -
I use a foot soak,
dry skin brushing,
making sure my bowels moved at least once a day (sorry if it's TMI!)
pushing myself to drink at least 64 ounces of lemon water each and every day,
liver/gall bladder flushes (all natural) as needed,
Apple cider vinegar,
Quercetin,
oil pulling with a few drops of tea tree oil,
using Yogi brand detox tea taking activated charcoal
and keeping the amount of stress in my life at a bare minimum.
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