Question for Rowingmom about a-bart!!

I remember you saying your daughter was on a-bart for months, then got off it for a few months. Then when she went back on a-bart after months of not being on it she had the same herx reaction as she had when she first went on a-bart at 1 drop. You concluded that a-bart did not work for her.

My question is now that your daughter is healed from Bartonella, if she were to take a-bart now do you think she would still have a reaction?

The reason i ask this is because i'm trying to figure out how it works. My doctor swears that it is effective as any antibiotic against bartonella but based on my experience and other people online basically saying it is not effective in getting rid of bart, I wonder why he has such a positive view on it.
Actually now that i think of it, many of the people on the lyme forums have also said their doctors were very "favorable" towards the Byron White formulas. But with so many people saying it doesn't work, why do doctors insist on using it?

So i'm trying to figure out if a-bart specifically targets and kills bartonella, or does it just cause a reaction in our bodies that, idk, causes herx like symptoms?

Hi afiya4health -

I hope rowingmom will be along soon to provide input.

I've used several BW formulas and will offer my thoughts if you don't mind.

I started treatment with AL-Complex for lyme, A-Bart and A-Babs. Over about 4 months I had no reaction to the AL-complex and tried other herbs (can't remember what they were). Very quickly, I started losing the ability to walk (severe joint pain and neuro problems) so my LLMD put me on an antibiotic for lyme with good results so far.

Simultaneously, the A-bart and A-babs seemed to trigger associated but manageable herxing so we thought they were good to maintain. I stayed on them for about a year and I felt I had good control over the symptoms. Except I was experiencing these horrible GI attacks every 4-5 wks, which we could not figure out - no obvious triggers or associations. These attacks were so bad they landed me in the ER.

Then, due to other issues I crashed again in Dec and spiraled down quickly. I had to stop everything, allow my body to recover and slowly rebuild my protocol again. And when I started A-bart again BAM, the GI attacks resumed. Doc and I figured out the connection --- it was a severe herx - the kind that isn't sustainable.

She took me off the A-bart and put me on an abx for bart. To me, this really synthesized some of the differences between abx and herbs:

- first, I fully believe we don't really know all of the pathogens in our bodies nor what all the abx or the herbs are hitting; the abx and the herbs likely hit different pathogens and they also work differently and I don't think this is well understood.

- Also, whatever was/is in my gut, the A-bart hit too intensely and the abx hit a little less intensely. Or, let's say that the abx is hitting 2 pathogens and the A-bart hit 10.

I'm still on the lyme and bart abx - Doc feels I'm not quite ready to resume the A-bart but that is my goal. I'm still looking for the herb I will transition to after abx.

Hope this is helpful -

-p

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