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Posted 8/20/2016 1:15 AM (GMT 0)
Curious what you Lymies do to restore heathy balance after the mass quantities of antibiotics we have to take? Is candida a guarantee after this is all done?

First day since bite that I am symptom free - no pain today!

Thanks and TGIF
Posted 8/20/2016 3:43 AM (GMT 0)
Artemix I was in that same thought process. Antibiotics was not for me. I could not remember the last time I had them and it was like poison to me.....

I bought the best and greatest probiotics and I still felt I was getting sicker.

I could not understand those that took antibiotics. But now being on this forum I see that there are so many that do so well and heal with them and I never poo-poo them at all.

We are all different and we all have to find our own way for our body to heal and I NEVER tell someone that there is only one way. And I NEVER tell someone that what is working for them is wrong!!!

I stumbled onto what worked for me and everyone else will get to their healing in the their own way.

If there was only one way we all would be on it NOW!
Posted 8/20/2016 4:49 AM (GMT 0)
I've been on many different antibiotics for close to 18 months and i'm in very good health (aside from those nasty bugs) by all indicators. I've had side effects from cefdinir (sore throat) and cipro/levaquin (tendonitis) but all others i've been fine with.

Probiotics and anti-yeast are a must during any abx treatment. I take several supplements + shakeology in am and green vibrance at night that gives me a few hundred billion of em spread out over the day. Haven't had any GI issues.

Goes to show every person's journey to better health is unique to them.
Posted 8/20/2016 1:40 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks everyone.

Artemix, did you heal after one month on amoxicillin? I agree with you guys and always refuse abx - after oral surgery, after a sinus infection. I will not take them. But the thought of Lyme going to my brain scares me more than the abx. I just finished week five and have one more week (I hope). I don't even know why I'm going to this super expensive LLMD next week when I really do not want to take more abx.

Question: Why do you think abx are more poisonous to the body than Lyme/co-infections?

Thanks.
Posted 8/20/2016 1:47 PM (GMT 0)
probiotics, healthy diet and antifungals... that's the way

great you are without pain!!
Posted 8/20/2016 1:52 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks blueberry,

What are some natural antifungals? I cannot take Nystantin (or whatever it is called).

I have very healthy diet and take probiotics.
Posted 8/20/2016 2:34 PM (GMT 0)
The main concern would be your digestive tract recovering. Good probiotics and a good healthy diet is what helps the most.

There are some really good natural antifungals, but most of them are either antiviral and/or antibacterial as well - which is good, but could make you herx more if there are either more bacteria or viral components left to treat.

The other thing is that they can be rough on the digestive tract as well. So more probiotics are needed to keep things in balance.

It's not really that any of these treatments are any harder than the other on the digestive tract, but more like we need to fill the "vacuum" left when the bad bacteria have been killed off/removed. If it's not "filled" with the good bacteria, the bad will usually proliferate more quickly, leaving us with digestive issues.

A very potent antibacterial/antiviral/antifungal is oil of oregano, but be sure to buy the capsules!
Posted 8/20/2016 2:51 PM (GMT 0)
Trav,

Thank you! I take Dr. Ohhirra probiotic right now, kefir (at your suggestion), a lot of coconut oil (prebiotic), Komboucha, and healthy diet.

Do you take the oil of oregano after the abx are finished? I have Young Living oil of oregano - will a few drops in water help? I also like to drink ACV in hot water with a little cayenne but haven't done that since lyme.

Thank you! Feeling pain and symptom free today but feel like I'm getting weaker from abx. Too long.

Hope you are well.
Posted 8/20/2016 4:38 PM (GMT 0)
lots of good anti-fungal options there was a thread recently i think i started where you can look it up. some of my favorites are grapefruit seed extract, olive leaf extract, oil of oregano and oil pulling with coconut oil for mouth/throat.
Posted 8/20/2016 4:47 PM (GMT 0)
Abx are like the 'big guns' of treatment, but there still has to be a lot of supportive care done, which is what most people/doctors miss.

Most herbal treatments aren't as hard on the bacteria/protozoa, but help the body deal with the effects (inflammation, etc.) while more slowly attacking the bacteria/protozoa. It's more of a "sneak attack" - as Artermix was describing.

[quote=Huddie] Do you take the oil of oregano after the abx are finished? I have Young Living oil of oregano - will a few drops in water help? I also like to drink ACV in hot water with a little cayenne but haven't done that since lyme.

I would still encourage you to use the capsules - they are much easier on the digestive tract for almost all that use them. Should you choose to use the straight oil, it needs to combined with another oil to take it, as oil and water don't mix. Coconut oil is the best tasting oil for this, if you ask me - but still be sure to stir it well before taking it.

When it's taken in water, you will get these "globs" of oil that will still stick to the surface of the skin in the mouth, tongue, throat and stomach and you can feel an intense burning effect - believe me! I started using oil of oregano before they had capsules!! Quite the eye popping experience for me.

By the way, it burns like crazy on an open wound too - so don't use it on broken skin or a rash!!
Posted 8/24/2016 2:28 AM (GMT 0)
Hi I just finished a month of doxy 100mgs 2x day and decided to do another month with 200mgs 2xday. I am someone who never wants to take any poison into my body but I keep reading that abx can help in alot of cases. I believe I started the doxy within 2months of tick bite. I am taking a probiotic and eating organic plain yogurt. I am also ordering the Knotweed and Cats Claw and plan on taking those for a few months - any thoughts on how long and if I should start them now?
Posted 8/24/2016 3:09 AM (GMT 0)

aloevera said...
Hi I just finished a month of doxy 100mgs 2x day and decided to do another month with 200mgs 2xday. I am someone who never wants to take any poison into my body but I keep reading that abx can help in alot of cases. I believe I started the doxy within 2months of tick bite. I am taking a probiotic and eating organic plain yogurt. I am also ordering the Knotweed and Cats Claw and plan on taking those for a few months - any thoughts on how long and if I should start them now?

I would start them now - but start one at a time - very low dose (i.e. one drop 1X day) - when you get to one drop 3X daily - then you can add in the second herb - again start at one drop 1X day.

Do you have symptoms? You need to treat until symptom free plus 4-8 weeks more.
Posted 8/24/2016 3:16 AM (GMT 0)

Traveler said...


Most herbal treatments aren't as hard on the bacteria/protozoa, but help the body deal with the effects (inflammation, etc.) while more slowly attacking the bacteria/protozoa. It's more of a "sneak attack" - as Artermix was describing.

Man I disagree with that! tongue Sida acuta is giving me a rough time just at a few drops. These are herxes from hell!

I think my LLMD would have killed me if i went on her abx plan of minocycline, zithromax, tinidazole, sida acuta, and artemisinin. I'm taking 3-4 drops of Sida 3 times a day and waking up with panic attacks, symptoms of brain demyelination, and what i suspect is gallbladder pain. These herbs are hardcore if you hit it right. I'm so glad I opted out of her plan. A full dose of all of those? skull
Posted 8/24/2016 6:40 AM (GMT 0)
Wow psilo...pick your poison....as for healing from abx there is some that have taken them for years do take af ,and 100billion abx ..i wish i could do vsl and florastor ,sourkrout kefir ,bubbies pickles ,
Posted 8/24/2016 2:33 PM (GMT 0)
i've been on abx for 18 months (and counting) and finally making progress on my head issues of 2 years and my chest issues that started in mid-jan. these infections have multiple layers that need to be peeled away over typically long periods of time. as some said earlier taking care of your gut is key so take lots of probiotics and eat a healthy diet. i think the most diet aspect is low/no sugar. sugar is so bad for you esp when you have bugs that love to munch on it! next is anti-inflammatory diet due to what these bugs due to us.
Posted 8/24/2016 5:07 PM (GMT 0)
Rikky - So great to hear you are making progress...


I just talked to someone who is finally off abx after 3 years of treatment. Been off 6 months, no issues yet...is now doing LDI.

She didn't 'turn around' until after the second year....there is hope!!!
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