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Posted 9/7/2016 1:12 AM (GMT 0)
We have all heard about Lyme running through families. It has happened to lots of posters here and has happened in my own family. However, what about the coinfections. Are certain coinfections transmitted through bodily fluids or sexually transmitted, while others aren't? This knowledge would be very helpful for those helping their family members.

My wife, for example, was tested for several things when she started getting the same Lyme symptoms as me. We found 3 pos bands on the WB (include borrelia specific band 23), so we know she has Lyme. We had her checked for mycoplasma (which I had very high), and she was negative. So I feel mycoplasma may not be as easily transmitted. Of course this is just one person, and we do know that some people may not have antibodies because of immune system not functioning properly. However, despite the Lyme, her immune system still works WAY better than mine. The flu went around our house and everyone else is better and I just can't shake it. So I feel like if she had contracted mycoplasma from me, her immune system would be producing antibodies - its not.

So what about other coinfections? Which ones are transmittable through bodily fluids and which aren't? Any information or personal experiences to add?
Posted 9/7/2016 2:59 AM (GMT 0)
The minute I had a positive lyme test we quit kissing and having unprotected sex.

I am in remission now and we still are very careful.

If I have food at a restaurant and hubby wants to taste it, he gets to taste it before my fork goes into that food.

There is no way I am giving him, or anyone, this suckie disease!!

As for co-infections - I have no idea but it is not worth a test with my loved ones.
Posted 9/7/2016 3:09 PM (GMT 0)
I honestly don't believe enough (honest) testing has been done for anyone to be able to answer that question.
Posted 9/7/2016 8:08 PM (GMT 0)
Do you think that it can be transmitted by saliva??
I thought only by sexual intercourse?
Posted 9/7/2016 9:52 PM (GMT 0)
Borrelia has been found in saliva as well as tears and urine (I know, no one is going to intentionally touch urine, but...). What we don't know is if the bacteria is capable of replicating that is found in those body fluids, since no one has bothered to test it and find out.
Posted 9/8/2016 6:00 PM (GMT 0)
Ya some of the co-infections can be transmitted in bodily fluids. Bartonella can be transmitted in tears. I did a little research because before I thought tears are sterile as they make lysozymes, lactoferrin, and other anti-bacterial enzymes to kill germs and keep the eyes healthy. But turns out gram negative bacteria are unaffected by these defence mechanisms and they can be found in tears. Bartonella is a gram negative bacteria. Also it's in saliva as it colinates the salivary glands. But here's the thing... And it is well documented that animal bites can cause bartonella infection so it's obviously in animal saliva. As humans we brush our teeth and keep our mouths clean so really it's hard to know for sure. My guess is if you treated completely and keep your mouth clean then possibly you will be less likely to be infectious.

Also I got Lyme, anaplasma, and bartonella from a tear, so those 3 for sure are in tears. Anaplasma is also a gram negative bacteria. So if you get bodily fluids from someone infected on you make sure to wash it off.

But key is where these bodily fluids from another person get to. open cut? On your mouth? On your nose? In your eyes? On your genitals? Those places are more likely to become infected than normal healthy unbroken skin. If you just touch someone's skin that isn't going to transmit anything. The bacteria need fluids to be transmitted.

Sexual transmission I believe Bart can be as it is also documented to occur and I feel a tingling in my testicles and epididymis area sometimes so that area was infected. Brucella is also known to be sexually transmitted with very good documentation and evidence. But the bartonella great doctor has mentioned bartonella is not passed on through birth and pregnancy as he has had multiple patients who have all NOT passed Bart to their children.
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