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Posted 9/12/2016 10:58 PM (GMT 0)
Hey guys,

Im about to embark on Buhners protocol for Bartonella encephalopathy and mycoplasma. My question is as such; he recommends sida acuta and houttuynia for the bart, but cryptolepis as the antibacterial for mycoplasma. However, he describes both houttuynia and cryptolepis as systematic antibacterials. So, do i need to take both? I know the sida is needed but im not sure if the houttuynia alone would be enough to tackle mycoplasma.

I need to buy his new book, i just dont have the $ at the moment since these herbs are going to be painfully expensive.

Thanks a lot for any help
Posted 9/12/2016 11:07 PM (GMT 0)
I'm reading his book now on mycoplasma/bartonella co-infections as I could get in e-book. I ordered his 2nd edition Lyme book but am waiting on it.

cryptolepsis doesn't come up in his basic protocol from the co-infection book. It's houttuynia. Cryptolepsis is mentioned as an addition if you have hemoplasma infection.

I just bought herbs today for mycoplasma actually...
Posted 9/12/2016 11:24 PM (GMT 0)
If you can, I would encourage you to use the Houttuynia, as many find it to be a very powerful herb for Bartonella.
Posted 9/12/2016 11:37 PM (GMT 0)
Crytolepis is part of the Babesia protocol .
Posted 9/12/2016 11:48 PM (GMT 0)
Honey you can get his books for free from the library thats how i got them! Hold on let me open his book. Yes cordyceps is the first one on the protocol. It stops the cytokine cascade and restores immune function. He says and I quote on pg 129, "It is perhaps the most specific herb on the planet for mycoplasma infections."
Posted 9/13/2016 1:17 AM (GMT 0)
Our libraries in my state arent that cool.. .i am using fresh dryed hootie and some a bart ..and i am wondering if it as powerful as rifampin?
Posted 9/13/2016 4:04 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the info, guys!

@jennydancingfish. I unfortunately can't get to a library nearby but that's a great thought.

@ThreeHumpedCamel. Thanks for that info. If i may ask, does he have a base protocol for treating Bartonella and mycoplasma together?
Posted 9/14/2016 11:51 PM (GMT 0)
@Aerose91 - I will let you know. I have only gotten thru most of the Mycoplasma part of the book. I am 100% sure I have that problem, so I am starting there. I figure by the time I ramp up, then I can figure out more.

He discusses it at the end, but not in relation to how to ramp up the herbals. He emphasises to be mindful of spleen, red blood cells and CNS -- Use Red Root. Monitor Sida doses carefully. For CNS, greater celendine or lion's mane or chinese skullcap + kudzu. Prasque flower for calming.

I glanced at the Bart section briefly, as I haven't gotten that far in the book yet. Bart seems to be more complex. But, there are many overlapping herbs, so I imagine when you ramp up on one, you can keep adding per your symptoms.

Cordyceps, Sida Acuta, Rhodiola, Isatis,Houttuynia are all the same

The ones I see different in the core protocol are Red Root, Hawthorn and alchornea, plus some different supplements.

The protocols remain separate in his book.

Hope this helps a little.
Posted 9/15/2016 12:56 AM (GMT 0)
here's a thread where i listed the buhner bart protocol if it helps

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3605528
Posted 9/15/2016 9:37 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you guys, that helps a lot!
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