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Posted 9/21/2016 4:48 PM (GMT 0)
... because I need to be reminded of patience, LoL

What is a time you wait once your body regulates to an herb to add another? 1 day? 3 days? a week? I know I have read different things about how folks progress, but i am on a small dose of cordyceps now. Next, would be the one I can't spell. Hout. for short. I feel like my body is regulated to cordyceps now. Just waiting turn

I know some have gone thru this with no herx or reaction, but if i trim a hangnail, my digestion gets upset, so I know I will have adjustment periods no matter how low I start.

I am handling about 1/2 dose of cordyceps quite fine now... really since yesterday.

I feel like I'm ready to move on, but perhaps I need to wait and make sure... and as I read it, the herbs work synergistically, so my understanding was to get one to a good point at a lower dose and add in another. Once all added in, then increase herb one again... if that's wrong, then please correct that. I would be comfortable increasing the cordyceps at any time.

Thank you!!!!
Posted 9/21/2016 4:58 PM (GMT 0)
I understand your concerns! I'm always nervous about adding in something new or raising doses! LOL!

If you feel like you are ready to add in the Houttuynia, then I would encourage you to do so. As you said, it's all about the individual's response and the amount of time that it takes to "settle" into something new.

Remember to only start off with one drop, as many have found that houttuynia is a very strong herb. Others have found that it doesn't do a thing, but we don't know who will react and who won't until it's started.
Posted 9/21/2016 6:36 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Traveler. I tend to be all in and immediately aggressive ... so I am trying to be mature about it and wait, LoL.
Posted 9/21/2016 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
3HumpedCamel I am like you.....I usually move with higher doses...and fast.
I increase my doses daily if helps. Once I reach a base line I stay on it for a week than move up the dose again. If I have herx reaction I suck it up and deal with it because I don't feel any different than what I felt before treatment.

With cordycepts I though a person could take as much as wished.....lol.
Posted 9/21/2016 6:52 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks artermix. I am just going by his book, which is 1/2 tsp 3x daily. I am at half now, and will start a new herb... perhaps not until the weekend... cause I don't want to miss work if it hits me too hard.
Posted 9/21/2016 10:53 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not much help, I'm still trying to figure it out also! But I am on Buhner's herbs, switching to Dr. Rawl's because of time issues (I use only herbs, no tinctures, so with Rawl's the pills are already made for me, or at least that's the hope!)
Posted 9/21/2016 10:58 PM (GMT 0)
PantsFace please let us know how you are doing once you begin the Rawl's protocol. I don't think there is a lot of information on the site with feedback on that one.
Posted 9/21/2016 11:01 PM (GMT 0)
Good luck Pantsface... I am doing tinctures. I stink at pills, so the less of those the better. I can down the liquid with no issues, and have always done better with sublingual or spray supplements... I've felt really fine today as far as herx goes, so I am ready to drop another bomb on my body with a new herb...
Posted 9/22/2016 12:10 AM (GMT 0)
I will eat and drink poop if it makes me feel better....lol.
Posted 9/22/2016 12:13 AM (GMT 0)
Sad to admit...but me too😊
Posted 9/22/2016 1:03 AM (GMT 0)
I will eat and drink poop if it makes me feel better....lol.

Ah artermix, I am right there with you... The poop cure soon to be CDC certified!
Posted 9/22/2016 1:16 AM (GMT 0)
I always trust my intuition with regard to when to add and when to pull back from certain things. That, and counsel here. What are you focusing on treating right now? Are you using Cats Claw and Japanese Knotweed already?
Posted 9/22/2016 3:55 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks multif. Buhner's mycoplasma protocol. I guess when I read his book, I created a spreadsheet for all the herbs/supplements in his protocol, along with what their purpose was. I started with cordyceps because it was multifaceted. I just added red root last night as I know my lymph system is sluggish and needs support. I am moving for supportive first i think. I am doing UVLrx and feel it is helping me with the antibacterial side. But I wasn't supporting cytokines or certain systems well enough in my mind.

I will do the same spreadsheet side by side with lyme, bartonella and Babesia. I tested + for Lyme and Myco, but my Lyme symptoms seem to be in remission. What I have going on now is definitely all different.
Posted 9/22/2016 4:06 PM (GMT 0)
I just wanted to mention the danger of pushing too hard and fast - herxing is a minor cytokine storm - a warning that things can get much worse. I've talked with a few people that have endured (& survived!) a cytokine storm, and it's very dangerous as they can be life threatening.

So please do be cautious and realize that we all can push our bodies too far too fast.
Posted 9/22/2016 4:11 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Traveler. That's why I was asking. I am still at small doses, but have read that adding in things at small doses works synergystically, and after herbs are added to then start at herb one and increase each one again, and so on... if there is a better way, I'm open.
Posted 9/22/2016 4:14 PM (GMT 0)
Nope, that's not only how I suggest doing it, but how I do it as well in order to keep everything under control and to help avoid dangerous situations. The last place in this world I need to be is in the hospital in my area. The doctors in Northern Arkansas just denied a child treatment again because we "don't have Lyme" in Arkansas. The people at the hospital would likely kill me rather than help me since they have no idea what they are dealing with.
Posted 9/22/2016 4:54 PM (GMT 0)
@traveler... this world. Sometimes it's simply inexplicable. It's so important to have a community such as this for support since it seems the only place we can get it... and from the occasional LLMD type, but they also have their niche... at least the ones by me. I feel like I'm out there all alone trying to decipher something that is so far beyond my knowledge... it's frustrating. I just want to be better... to live a life. I'm like everyone else here, and I get by, but i don't want to simply get by. But, doctors don't help, and I've relied on just them for far too long, realizing that not one of them knows much beyond their niche.

Dang, I'm having a rough day today. I'm usually not a downer. Neighbor issues, LoL...
Posted 9/22/2016 5:10 PM (GMT 0)
3HumpedCamel - sorry you're having a rough day today...we understand...


Hope you feel better soon....tomorrow's another day.
Posted 9/22/2016 5:15 PM (GMT 0)
Oh no! I'm so sorry you are having issues with the neighbors!! I went through that as well this summer. Like we need more stress in our lives!!!

I hope that your neighbor issues resolve quickly!!
Posted 9/22/2016 5:18 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Girlie. Sometimes, people cause issues over dumb things, like our neighbor... things that to us don't matter... like someone parking in front of your house. We had a dog rescue event at our house last weekend, and now our neighbor is saying people parked in front of their house and damaged the grass... it's actually a public easement like most townships... ugh. I don't need the stress on top of the herbs and the things that happen when we start ramping that...

I have more important items on my docket, like getting well...
Posted 9/22/2016 5:40 PM (GMT 0)
We have neighbors who were parking in front of our house instead of theirs'....!!!!

strange, hey? I guess they don't want the congestion in front of their own home...
I said to my husband...'Well, maybe I should park my car in front of their house'.

He said "Don't get 'into' it"

It didn't last long..but it was certainly strange.


Yup, more important things to be concerned about, for sure!
Posted 9/22/2016 6:40 PM (GMT 0)
Ah, this was about the grass bending... if there was damage, we'd pay for it. This was for a few hours on a Saturday. It's not uncommon for huge parties to happen by us so the complaint was out of left field as they have had people park by us. 2 neighbors came and joined in (we invited them all) and had a blast. These guys just wanted to complain... bendy grass isn't perfect grass i guess.

Oh, well, on with life. If we get a bill for bendy grass, so be it.
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